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AskewRSR 07-23-2011 05:27 AM

What Steve McQueen would have ordered in 1991. My build.
 
Ok. I wanted to build something a little different. This is a 1991 C2 Turbo that I bought from Cory Jump at Planet 911. It will be painted 1968 Non Metallic Slate Grey. The same color Steve Mcqueen always ordered. I also plan on having Gary Stratton build me a custom DUCKTAIL. Seats will have Hounds tooth inserts. The interior will be Lightweight RSR. I am a purist and HATE sunroofs... We have just completed the Sunroof Delete. We also took a little trick from RUF.... The deletion of the Rain gutters, as he did on the Yellowbird. The C2 3.3 liter motor will be replace with a 3.6 liter Turbo Brumos Race motor that I bought a few years back. The goal is to have a light weight dual purpose Turbo with around 500hp. I really like the styling of the white car..964R that was built in California. Here are a few pics. Feedback and ideas are welcome. Thanks, Tate
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SCHNELE 07-23-2011 05:43 AM

Good luck with the execution Tate I like the direction of your build I can't wait to see the completed beast.

redturbo911 07-23-2011 08:30 AM

Very nice so far keep the pics coming. How about some 993 door handles

E-man930 07-23-2011 09:28 AM

Two thumbs up from me!

torresmd 07-23-2011 09:28 AM

Nice work. I think the color will look great.

IMONBOOST 07-23-2011 02:39 PM

Don't feel like you stole anything from RUF, the 959 had no rain gutters since 1983. The yellow bird came out in 1987. Good luck with your project...looking forward to see the outcome.

krasuskyp 07-23-2011 07:54 PM

great to see the update Tate - thanks for sharing!

looks incredulous - you sir, have good taste

looking fwd to more! That motor's gonna be a monster in thar... love it...

Join us 8/4 weekend for PP yes? 8-)

AskewRSR 07-27-2011 11:41 AM

Thanks everyone. Paul. I am heading down to Savannah this weekend and will go to the Porsche Parade events on Monday Aug 1st. Lincoln, I can't wait to hear all about your new engine and I have been reading your posts. This C2 has the original G50-52 which should be able to handle the horsepower. It also has a set of Bilstein PSS 9 Coil overs. I plan to leave the brakes stock. The wheels will be painted in a black, "crackle" finish. Rich Dean at Classic Design in Athens Ga is doing all of the fabrication and paint work. This will be the 7th car that he has built me. He is one of the best fabricators in the southeast. He paintwork is flawless. We are stripping the car buy hand this week. I will post pics as soon as I get them. Thanks, Tate

930LDR 07-27-2011 11:43 AM

Can not wait to watch the progress. That is going to be a stunner.

JBL930 07-27-2011 12:14 PM

Will be watching this one with interest, like the idea of loosing rain gutters and sunroof.... Will you be going with narrow rear arches like the white car? And the little mirrors? Looks purposeful.... I must admit to being very tempted to drop the impact bumpers on mine and go cleaner, like the CTR.
Post plenty of pics, we all love pics :)

AskewRSR 07-27-2011 01:07 PM

Jonathan, The white car actually has narrow front fenders and wide rears. I will keep the fenders stock on this C2 turbo. I love the look of the 1973 RSR cars. Here are a few things that I am wrestling with:
1. Mirrors. Keep stock or go with the small 935 mirrors? I am on the fence.
2. Wheels. I like the stock 17" wheels but am very tempted to go with a set of 18" wheels. Rich Dean says that I will need much more meat on the ground and I think he might be right...
3. A/C. I hate the extra weight and I have never had a unit that ever worked in a 911. My builder assures me that the C2 A/C is drastically better than the previous units. Is is Damn hot down in Ga/NC right now....

krasuskyp 07-27-2011 05:34 PM

DAYUM dood - I'm just catching that you now rock a Maser GT... as yer daily.

FARGIN SNEAKY BASTAGE!!!

8-)

That is too damn cool, kudos. Pics / impressions?

I finally pop'd my Masercherry, '04 QPortte - thoroughly enjoyed it and got wifely blessing to pursue one as daily replacement come Alumib!tch's demise in a coupla years. Dunno about the reality of maintenance tho 8-/.

So, PP... you'll be there a week before us - will you be gone by the time us dumbarses arrive (Fri 8/5)??? Be cool to hang...

JBL930 07-28-2011 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AskewRSR (Post 6161764)
Jonathan, The white car actually has narrow front fenders and wide rears. I will keep the fenders stock on this C2 turbo. I love the look of the 1973 RSR cars. Here are a few things that I am wrestling with:
1. Mirrors. Keep stock or go with the small 935 mirrors? I am on the fence.
2. Wheels. I like the stock 17" wheels but am very tempted to go with a set of 18" wheels. Rich Dean says that I will need much more meat on the ground and I think he might be right...
3. A/C. I hate the extra weight and I have never had a unit that ever worked in a 911. My builder assures me that the C2 A/C is drastically better than the previous units. Is is Damn hot down in Ga/NC right now....


Ah, it's the narrow fronts that threw me, indeed it has fat rears.... Looks good like that, i like it!
The chap that ownes it posts on Rennlist, nice fella, we've chatted about the arse ache of fitting 993 turbo engines into older motors.... It's a LOT easier into a 964 than a 930....

Personally i'd not bother with the stock aircon, but it might be an idea to see what after market modern stuff you could adapt and fit??

1986 930 07-28-2011 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AskewRSR (Post 6161764)
3. A/C. I hate the extra weight and I have never had a unit that ever worked in a 911. My builder assures me that the C2 A/C is drastically better than the previous units. Is is Damn hot down in Ga/NC right now....

I drove a 1991 C2 Carrera as a daily driver in Dallas Tx. and Jacksonville Fl for several years. The factory AC was good enough to keep me comfortable in summer, but not cold, even in a suit.

mooney265 07-28-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AskewRSR (Post 6161764)
3. A/C. I hate the extra weight and I have never had a unit that ever worked in a 911. My builder assures me that the C2 A/C is drastically better than the previous units. Is is Damn hot down in Ga/NC right now....

From my experience, you've gotta have good A/C, or you won't drive it - - just too uncomfortable in these southern climates [New Orleans...] I went with Griffiths for a 3-condenser system [front, behind rear tire, and rear decklid]. Also upgraded the evaporator and blower motor - - it was the difference between driving and parking through the Summer...

krasuskyp 07-28-2011 05:14 AM

by ^that^ logic - inversely - I'd kit mine up with studded snows, crank up the suspension some, and let 'er rip all winter long?

8-)

mooney265 07-28-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krasuskyp (Post 6163016)
by ^that^ logic - inversely - I'd kit mine up with studded snows, crank up the suspension some, and let 'er rip all winter long?

8-)

Heck, I never thought of that - - I'm only using snow tires in February... I'll go all Winter next year ;)

Truf-fully, I put a lot of miles on mine in the winter - - 50's-60'sF is really nice driving...

turbo3six 07-28-2011 05:25 PM

Very nice build, I like your direction. The small mirrors look trick but are a beeatch to drive with in traffic... aero mirrors look great and are way more functional. 18'' s are probably a no brainer for the greater footprint you can acheive, not to mention they look 'right' on a 964 Turbo ala 3.6. Here are some pics of McQueens 930 for further inspiration.
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AskewRSR 08-11-2011 12:18 PM

Here you go Paulie, and Yes.... I have a slate grey problem.... it is actually called Granito. I was up in your neck of the woods not long ago at the Greenwich Concours D Elegance. Beautiful part of the country. The Maserati is one of less than 300 built with the 599 Ferrari paddle shifter trans. It sound like a formula one car. Enjoy. Tate

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SCHNELE 08-12-2011 09:29 AM

Hey Tate my neighbor drives that GTS as a daily here in Michigan his is Black, here is an article that was written about him when he drove the Quattroporte he has since traded it in for the GTS, he also owns a 599, Superamerica, Maranello, and a 3xx Stradale, gone is the untitled Enzo

AskewRSR 09-06-2011 12:35 PM

In primer before Non metallic Slate Grey.
 
Stripped the red paint off, removed sunroof and drip rails then primed. Check out the pics. Getting ready for the Ducktail. Rich Dean does great work. Thanks. What 18" wheels should I use? SSR.....Forgeline...... Rays..... I like the look of the ones that Rauh Welt uses. Let me know which wheels you would use. Thanks, Tatehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315341081.jpg
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orange911 10-09-2011 08:20 PM

This thing should have paint on it by now, update pics?

Schwarzeritter 10-11-2011 01:05 AM

Speaking of the devil, I was reading one of my magazines from ages ago whil I was in the office, ie turlet =). It actually had a Mc Queen car that he had orderd. I do re-call that he had put in place an off switch for just the rear lights to go stealth, I think this may have included break lights too. But the front system operated normal. LOL, I'll try to post or something.

May of been a fun article for you to read.

Ken911 10-11-2011 01:57 AM

these cars look so much better with the gutters shaved looking great!!

Ouzo12 10-11-2011 07:42 AM

"The Turbo didn't stay stock for long. The first change was a switch on the dash to knock out the taillights and brake lights in case of hot pursuit by law enforcement personnel. Later the standard 15-by-7-inch front and 15-by-8-inch rear Fuchs wheels were replaced by 15-by-8-inch front and 15-by-9-inch rear Fuchs wheels."

Driving Steve McQueen's Porsche 911 Turbo

slyguy 10-13-2011 11:42 AM

if steve McQueen was a sissy boy...
 
he would be driving this...
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AskewRSR 10-20-2011 11:01 AM

I have decided to go with the 2011 GT3 rs grey. Garry Stratton is coming up to custom build the ducktail. I am also converting the rear trailing arms to the narrow set up in order to fit 18X11.5 custom rear SSR deep dish wheels. They will take 3 months to get though. The engine is close to being finished. The car should be painted this week. Should I go with an accent color like the GT3 rs?? what is your opinion? Thanks


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911boost 10-21-2011 01:30 PM

Looking good. Are you going to keep the stock wheels?

AskewRSR 08-11-2013 12:51 PM

Well. I am into year 3 of this build and have changed the color once again. It will now be Pastel Blue, one of my favorite early 911 colors. Wheels and trim will be Mate black. I have stopped adding up the build cost. No A/C...No Heat. No radio, No rain guards, No sunroof. No sound deadening. .Manual window winders. . RS lightweight interior. We have converted the rear to narrow body trailing arms in order to fit much larger and deeper wheels. I will have them made with custom offsets. The front and rear bays have been painted. The 3.6L M64/50 Brumos engine is now installed in the car and we will fire it next week. My builder, Rich Dean wants install the motor and get the car street worthy before we finish the exterior paint. Rich will custom make a ducktail. The one I had made for this project never would fit correctly. Yes, I retained the CIS and Larry at CIS Flowtech modified the fuel head and the WUR. I will use the ultra rare S2 factory 4" thick full width Andial Intercooler. The Turbo is a Garrett and the Wastegate is a Tial, they both came from Chis at Turbokraft. Here are a few pics. I hope I am only 3 months out now. Tate
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Norm K 08-11-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AskewRSR (Post 6153050)
I am a purist and HATE sunroofs...

Coulda` fooled me, given your huge departure from original on this vehicle. Looks like you're just a plain old guy who hates sunroofs. Not that that there's anything wrong with your mods and expected mods (except to the purists, that is). It oughta be really cool when you're finished.

Uncle 08-11-2013 02:56 PM

Oh man I was looking forward to seeing the Grey. Good luck getting it running though.

AskewRSR 08-11-2013 03:07 PM

nkowi. Very true. "purist" was the wrong word.... I would say that I like light weight...sports purpose 911's. This one has taken me in a new direction. Thanks

torresmd 08-11-2013 04:46 PM

Its going to be bad ass. Keep up the good work.

pkracer21j 08-12-2013 10:52 AM

another 18" option for you...shameless plug for our wheels. and not a 3 month wait.

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panzerfaust 08-12-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AskewRSR (Post 6161764)
Jonathan, The white car actually has narrow front fenders and wide rears. I will keep the fenders stock on this C2 turbo. I love the look of the 1973 RSR cars. Here are a few things that I am wrestling with:
1. Mirrors. Keep stock or go with the small 935 mirrors? I am on the fence.
2. Wheels. I like the stock 17" wheels but am very tempted to go with a set of 18" wheels. Rich Dean says that I will need much more meat on the ground and I think he might be right...
3. A/C. I hate the extra weight and I have never had a unit that ever worked in a 911. My builder assures me that the C2 A/C is drastically better than the previous units. Is is Damn hot down in Ga/NC right now....

sounds like a cool project subscribe!

if you do go to a vitaloni 935 mirror, i can use your aero mirrors if you ever want part with them.

regards

AskewRSR 08-12-2013 06:58 PM

Pete. I am in Carmel for the rest of the month. Let me know if you and Justin are out here. I like your wheels. Tate.

jsveb 08-12-2013 08:28 PM

Hi tate

I believe we met at Franz Blam a while back.

I live in the monterey area now.

If I get time, I'll come check out the car week.

You should see the 930. Last time you saw it was a FBR.

good luck with your project.

AskewRSR 01-06-2014 05:19 PM

current pics
 
It took me 12 versions to get the ducktail correct. Rich Dean is a master of Fabrication. Here are some current pics. Enjoy. Thttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1389060942.jpg
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Tt surgeon 01-06-2014 05:24 PM

Another shot is McQueen's 930http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1389061448.jpg

AskewRSR 01-06-2014 05:29 PM

Oh ****. I dont know how that last shot got in there. Sorry. T


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