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Are we using the wrong spark plugs?

I think I just bought the wrong spark plugs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgFVN9iMnLg

Old 08-17-2015, 09:57 AM
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Yes sir
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Thanks for sharing. I will freely admit I have typically run Denso Iridium plugs in my cars. Clearly I need to rethink that approach.
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Switch/ E85, done.. I hate changing sparkplugs so I will stick to platiniums for durability. But if problems arise need to rethink this.
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platinums dont always work best. i went from a bosch platinum to a cheap copper in my truck. it not only ran better but gas mileage went up alomst 5mpg.

use either copper or the bosch CS (silver).
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Seriously!? You are going to switch the plugs in your $100K cars based on YouTube dude?

LMAO
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The thermal conductivity part is true.
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I did a science experiment in middle school on spark plugs.

What I found is Bosch Platinums gave off a much weaker spark than good old copper Autolites. I did other plug types in between. I did this by using my lawnmower and a rig to hold the gaps for the spark to jump. I simply moved each plug further away until no spark.

I know it was not totally controlled variable wise since me pulling the rope could have changed the magnetos strength, but I did it several times as an average.

It was a drastic difference.
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Seriously!? You are going to switch the plugs in your $100K cars based on YouTube dude?

LMAO
They are tuners by trade......not exactly a rookie IMO.
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Has this not been known for a while?

boosted/ nitrous should use normal plugs
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Has this not been known for a while?

boosted/ nitrous should use normal plugs
Uh, no.
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Uh, no.
So we should be using Iridium and Platinum?
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Aren't the recommended W3DPO's platin?
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My mechanic buddy uses NGK BR9IX - iridium - plugs in 930s. Waiting great back if he's noticed anything, at least in hindsight, in regard to different plug types.
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So we should be using Iridium and Platinum?
You need Splitfire's or E3's, a quart of Slick 50, and a cool collar, then you're good to go!...............

On a more serious note, here's a good read:

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/docs/tech/Racing_Spark_Plugs_Performance_Applications.pdf
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Slick 50! It's Teflonated!
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You betcha!

And if it's Teflon, it's got to be good for anything!..........
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Interesting...back around 98 when I had my 3.2 I switched to platinum plugs. Car ran like crap. My mechanic at that time had me switch back to copper. Car ran great plus the copper ones were a lot cheaper.
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You need Splitfire's or E3's, a quart of Slick 50, and a cool collar, then you're good to go!...............

On a more serious note, here's a good read:

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/docs/tech/Racing_Spark_Plugs_Performance_Applications.pdf
HAHA, what was that stuff that they took the oil pan off the car and sprayed water on the crank as the engine ran?

That'd top it off!
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Interesting...back around 98 when I had my 3.2 I switched to platinum plugs. Car ran like crap. My mechanic at that time had me switch back to copper. Car ran great plus the copper ones were a lot cheaper.
Wonder how much of that had to do with not being resistor plugs? For sure the spark would be weaker.

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