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engine build doldrums

having a hard time. trying to find someone to build or help build a 2.2 into a 2.3 or 2.5
seems most don't work on the smaller engines anymore
or they don't return messages
guess I will just enjoy what I have and save the money
would have been fun though

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Your in SD. Supertec is in Fallbrook which 2hours north Iirc.
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I would try Black Forest in Clairemont Mesa.

https://blackforestautomotive.com/

When I lived in San Diego, I used them for my 911 and 914 work. John, Mark & Jeff are really good people. They still help me out when I call with questions and it's been over twenty years since I lived in San Diego.

Supertech has been good as well for parts and guidance.
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Isn't Steve still at Black Forest? He was the go to guy for the mag motors.
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Steve Grosekemper is listed on Black Forest's website. I just didn't work with him since I left San Diego before he arrived.
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Isn't Steve still at Black Forest? He was the go to guy for the mag motors.
he says he doesn't work on "small" engines anymore
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The problem with rebuilding any air cooled 911 engine is that most shops don’t want to own the engine there is just to many issues the can arise with to much labor involved . Not worth doing too many other things you can do to make money with out the stress of going back 100 hrs on your dime if heaven forbid you got a oil leak
That’s my take why nobody wants to do it any more
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having a hard time. trying to find someone to build or help build a 2.2 into a 2.3 or 2.5
seems most don't work on the smaller engines anymore
or they don't return messages
guess I will just enjoy what I have and save the money
would have been fun though
You might want to call: Jae Lee at Mirage
IMHO of course . . . (we have our engine builder in Phoenix, but you should find someone closer to you . . . )

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The problem with rebuilding any air cooled 911 engine is that most shops don’t want to own the engine there is just to many issues the can arise with to much labor involved . Not worth doing too many other things you can do to make money with out the stress of going back 100 hrs on your dime if heaven forbid you got a oil leak
That’s my take why nobody wants to do it any more
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coming out of the darkness
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Build it yourself. This forum will help you.

A day to tear it down and box up the subassemblies for shipping out.

A month to six weeks for the subcontractors to do their thing while you wait.

A day to inventory everything and make a plan and order all the parts you need.

Five days, eight hours a day, to assemble it. The Factory did them in 19 hours, but they did a lot of them. I think a novice, with the assistance of Wayne's book and this forum, could do it in 40 hours, have fun, save money and learn a heck of a lot.

Day 1 crank, rods, case.

Day 2 pistons, cylinders, heads, cam towers

Day 3 time cams, assemble engine tin

Day 4 Carbs/MFI installation

Day 5 put the engine in the car and break it in.

The hard part is PLANNING. And if you've never done it before, that is the long pole in the tent. I would do about 30 hours of research, an hour of reading/surfing this forum per day for a month, before starting in.

And I would figure around $1000 for special tools, sealants etc. before the parts you need.

The professionals do it a heck of a lot faster. They should, there is tremendous value in their skills and in avoiding the inevitable mistakes that a novice will make.

But it's just not that hard.

I am doing a BMW airhead Motorcycle engine right now and compared to a 911 it's a cake walk. I keep asking myself, "When is this going to get difficult?" I'm no genius but the point is, if you can read think and plan and stay organized you can absolutely do it and have fun besides.
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