New project @ Supertec

[Henry Schmidt]

We find ourselves ready to start a new project to sell to a Porsche enthusiast.
The reason for the post is to get ideas about what we should build.
Sort of putting a finger in the air to test which way to wind is blowing.
We have every core to build any project.
We will post the build step by step and in the end, auction it off.

All ideas considered but Please no "stock" builds or M1 cams

What should we build? Post your dream build and I'll evaluate the concept.

Here's something crazy, how about a carburetor GT3 engine to fit in an early chassis?

Looks like we have one vote for a wild turbo....Thanks Mike

[Mike Billings]

GT3 intake on aircooled with 935 compressor pipes + ITB?

[Mike Billings]

Flat headers on mag case with Ford VNT? Let's get crazy here!

[Henry Schmidt]

OK, let's get back to earth....

[Mike Billings]

The carbs on GT3 motor would be very cool for early chassis Would be more interested in high butterfly MFI stacks for same motor. Would want a more clean look. Would prefer not to see power steering bracket, injector rails, heat exchanger, oil tank, oil filler, you know, the stuff you need. Mount the alternator on a fan ring with no fan?

[Mike Billings]

Make it look clean, like BBI's motor, but with a necessary water pump. Maybe come up with some custom pipes for the external coolant passages. Convert to front mounted oil tank.

[Henry Schmidt]

MFI becomes a huge challenge given the need to mound and drive the MFI pump.High butterfly or slides could be converted to EFI.
I was thinking a left front radiator and a right front oil cooler. Alternator is easy but I was thinking as electric water pump would greatly simplify the need to circulate water.

OOPs, now I'm doing it. Back down to earth.

[Henry Schmidt]

Beck's, Mezger 3.6L GT3, 4 barrel engine is what got me thinking about putting carbs on a GT3. That, and the fact that I have a 4 litter 996 GT3 looking for a home.

[PeteKz]

Does the engine have to drop into a standard air-cooled engine bay? Or can it require some mods to the rear of the engine bay?

[PeteKz]

Let's see if Tom, "OldH2S" mentions his CIS to 4-bbl conversion.

[Old H2S]

So now I'm not completely whacko..That GT3 will eat a turbo in 60 foot times and start instantly on the first flywheel cog.
I love all types of induction, yesterday I did the I-95 400, the Weber kick in at 100MPH is instant.

[chucksmith]

What ever the choice is, drivability trumps coolness any day if you use the car a lot. The wow factor gets old quickly if you have to constantly make adjustments. In my mind electronic fuel injection is the only way to go these days.

[Billthebuilder]

Quit trying to go big how about a 1.8 4cyl that will spin at 10,000 rpm to install in my 914

[Henry Schmidt]

Originally Posted by chucksmith

What ever the choice is, drivability trumps coolness any day if you use the car a lot. The wow factor gets old quickly if you have to constantly make adjustments. In my mind electronic fuel injection is the only way to go these days.

Buy a Corvette
Air-cooled Porsche are about the "cool factor". I've been build these little dream cars for 40 years and every costumer has his/her priorities but dull generally isn't one of them.
Anyone can built "driveable" just like anyone can paint their living-room Navajo White.
This post is about building something special.

I just built a 3.9 engine with a standard upgrade of 993 SS cams and the engine ran great but crazy boring. John @ Dougherty Cams made us a 43X /109 and the engine came to life in it's 87 back dated RS. Incredibly flat torque curve and steady horse power all the way to seven grand. The cams would generally be considered too aggressive and the end result is WOW!.
Super Sport cams are "driveable" and 43X is WOW!

[Henry Schmidt]

Originally Posted by Billthebuilder

Quit trying to go big how about a 1.8 4cyl that will spin at 10,000 rpm to install in my 914

I'm fine with a high RPM engine but generally speaking, 10K is a bridge too far. Even as a race engine, things generally get pretty frantic above 8200.
A few years back,we built a 9200, 3.1 (66 x 100) and it was pretty cool. Ty rods, Extreme heads, 12:1 super light pistons, single row chains, super light crank, simple crazy expensive. I could do that again but I was really hoping for ideas about something we haven't built before.

BTW: are you really suggesting we build a VW as a "cool" project??? Yikes!!

[Henry Schmidt]

Originally Posted by PeteKz

Does the engine have to drop into a standard air-cooled engine bay? Or can it require some mods to the rear of the engine bay?

What are you thinking?

[Henry Schmidt]

The only Type IV engine we've built in the last 20+ years was a recreation of the D Production engine from Wayne Baker's 1978 SCCA championship 914. 2.0 liter, Forged crank, forged rods, 1.8 heads, NOS Snyder cams, Type I lifters, NOS Cosworth 11:1 pistons, and Solex carburetors. Old school, Just like they did it in 1978.

[al lkosmal]

Rather than a price no object build....how about building a cool 911 hotrod engine, completely from parts sourced from the Pelican Used Parts Classifieds.......let whatever unfinished project treasures become available define the build....

[Henry Schmidt]

Originally Posted by al lkosmal

Rather than a price no object build....how about building a cool 911 hotrod engine, completely from parts sourced from the Pelican Used Parts Classifieds.......let whatever unfinished project treasures become available define the build....

Nice idea, thanks for the thought.
One of the reasons for this "next" build is that I have almost everything I need in house to build this "dream/nightmare" engine. What I don't have I can make.

[Neil Harvey]

Henry,

Great idea. There needs to be more of this too. The more the better.

However, it's pretty hard to build something with off the shelf parts that has not been done already.
If you are to build an engine, small displacement and work on increasing the HP/L. The smaller engines have a lot of room for improvement.

My "finger in the air" told me more new parts for these old engines was wanted. The cost although important, a higher cost was accepted today more than yesterday.

More new parts that everyone can buy is my advice. You already have something, the camshaft you mentioned. Build upon that and come up with more new parts.