![]() |
|
|
|
Registered
|
cam spray bar plug replacment
After removing the press fit plugs for the cam spray tubes and cleaning them I decided to replace the press fit plugs with threaded pipe plugs.
I used 1/8" NPT plugs. The hole is perfect for this tap size, no drilling was required. ![]() ![]() ![]()
__________________
big AL '77 911 Last edited by Alan Cottrill; 12-03-2005 at 08:06 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kihei, HI - Maui
Posts: 593
|
Thanks, Al. Great pictures!
Mike |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 1,257
|
Nice Alan, good to know
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 1,346
|
Alan,
What did you use to seal them with?
__________________
Jim www.jimsbasementworkshop.com (CIS Primer for the 911) (73 911T (RS look) coupe) (Misc. 911 Parts for Sale) |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
I used blue thread locker to seal the threads.
they're a tapered plug, so I took my time with the tap and made sure to only tap the hole deep enough to sink the plug just past flush. the plugs are very tight. I just used the thread locker for added protection.
__________________
big AL '77 911 |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 1,346
|
Alan,
Thanks. I am just about to remove the plugs and clean the spray bars. I have done the regular plugs before, and I have the plain plugs at the ready, but the idea of being able to pop them out at some future time is intriguing.
__________________
Jim www.jimsbasementworkshop.com (CIS Primer for the 911) (73 911T (RS look) coupe) (Misc. 911 Parts for Sale) |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Guildford, UK
Posts: 278
|
That is really neat,
something that I have to do in the near future, thanks for sharing Regards, Jakes
__________________
If you want to run with the big dogs, you can't pee like a puppy!!! 92 Rover Metro 1.1 (54 manly horsepower) - Dont knock it it does 60 mpg!!! 81sc / 3.2 litre transplant (Broken BIG Time ) SCWDP deserter - HP junkie wannabe |
||
![]() |
|
Irrationally exuberant
|
Great idea! I've got an old cam tower I'll have to try it out on.
-Chris
__________________
'80 911 Nogaro blue Phoenix! '07 BMW 328i 245K miles! http://members.rennlist.org/messinwith911s/ |
||
![]() |
|
Air Medal or two
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: cross roads
Posts: 14,072
|
I have been telling this to every one for years........I just get no respect around here
.Seriously its the best deal since dehydrated water !!
__________________
D troop 3/5 Air Cav,( Bastard CAV) and 162 Assult Helicopter Co- (Vultures) South of Saigon, U Minh Forest, Delta, and all parts in between |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
yes...I must give props to afterburn, he gave me the idea.
since I tear my engine down every other winter this was the only solution that made sense.
__________________
big AL '77 911 Last edited by Alan Cottrill; 12-07-2005 at 04:48 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Air Medal or two
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: cross roads
Posts: 14,072
|
you will just luv it if you ever have to plull a tube in the car !!!
__________________
D troop 3/5 Air Cav,( Bastard CAV) and 162 Assult Helicopter Co- (Vultures) South of Saigon, U Minh Forest, Delta, and all parts in between |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 58
|
I can see the utility of this immediately; especially during the cleaning stages of a rebuild of cam-towers and heads! I will implement this trick on the 3.0L and 3.3L I’m currently rebuilding.
Thanks for sharing the great tip… munchovie.
__________________
Is 13 lucky or unlucky ? ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Osos, Ca
Posts: 398
|
Did you do both ends?
|
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: northeast
Posts: 4,527
|
can anyone tell the process of how to clean out this tube/spray bar?
probably need to remove BOTH ends of the tube to spray some solvent in there and then blow hi pressure compressed air thru the tube?? Bob
__________________
I live for 911 tweaks... |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 58
|
Quote:
I'm going to drill and tap both ends then use my hoppes gun cleaning kit on it! munchovie.
__________________
Is 13 lucky or unlucky ? ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 760
|
This was done on mine many years ago. I just finished a full on rebuild, and even after I had the cam towers professionally cleaned, I pulled out coked oil that was about the size of a quarter. Many people also use this to flush the spray bars while engine is still in the car.
__________________
John A. 1979 Porsche 930: 3.4L, SC cams, Twin plug, Leask WUR, Custom SSI turbo exhaust, Tial WG, K27HFS, and we can't forget the Zork (short lived depending on my homeowners assoc.) 05 Boxster S: For the Track. 06 Dodge Ram 2500 Power Wagon: Tow Vehicle |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
I did both ends of the tower.
Be VERY carefull with the tubes and espically when drilling out the plugs. The tubes are VERY SOFT!!!! Also... the tubes are held in place by the oil hose fitting. Those must be removed to push the tube out. DON'T USE ANYTHING ON THE END OF THE TUBE TO TRY TO PUSH IT OUT! You should be able to reach into the housing and grab the tube with your fingers and slide it out far enough to pull it out.
__________________
big AL '77 911 Last edited by Alan Cottrill; 12-10-2007 at 12:29 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: northeast
Posts: 4,527
|
Hey Big Al,
did you use 1/8" drill to remove the plugs? If not, how did you remove the plugs? I just looked at my tower and man are these cap/hole area small!! They look pretty frail also?? did you drill the hole to a particular size before threading the hole? what size tap? 1/8"? is the threaded insert called a 1/8"NPT plug? so I can get the correct one at the big box? Thx for answering some of my dumb questions, I just don't want to screw this up and ruin the spray bar pipe. Thanks again for your help! Bob
__________________
I live for 911 tweaks... |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: northeast
Posts: 4,527
|
I just thought of another dumb question...when I remove the spray bar, in case it has become miss directed a/o wrongly installed, can you tell me where the spray bar holes need to be pointing, as in what/where should the oil be pissing on? the area where the rocker rides on the cam lobes?.
Bob
__________________
I live for 911 tweaks... |
||
![]() |
|
Forced Induction Junkie
|
Cleaning the spray bar orifices takes a little patience. I took a pin (smaller than the size of the orifices), made a 90 degree bend about 3mm from the tip. Took the new tool and inserted in every orifice and turned the little arm on the tool around the inside to break off any sludge/coking that may have caused restrictions. Blew the tube out with injector cleaner, followed by compressed air. Then I soaked the spray bars in a solution of Dawn detergent and water. Sit for a few hours and have a beer or two, rinse the spray bars with water. Good as new!
__________________
Dave '85 930 Factory Special Wishes Flachbau Werk I Zuffenhausen 3.3l/330BHP Engine with Sonderwunsch Cams, FabSpeed Headers, Kokeln IC, Twin Plugged Electromotive Crankfire, Tial Wastegate(0.8 Bar), K27 Hybrid Turbo, Ruf Twin-tip Muffler, Fikse FM-5's 8&10x17, 8:41 R&P |
||
![]() |
|