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peppy 10-12-2012 03:08 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350082942.jpg

I.got the hoses figured out and the engine is back in thr car.



r.

peppy 10-13-2012 07:19 AM

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Old gas stinks.
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The engine and transmission balance pretty well right here. I got this from 87 Carrera engine drop
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350141318.jpg
It's in...now plug everything in.
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Lapkritis 10-14-2012 02:42 PM

Woah... nice progress. Looks like you're about ready for the moment of truth.

peppy 10-15-2012 12:21 PM

Ok now I have issues...tried to start it today.

1. Fan is rubbing in housing

2. Fuel is leaking from engine hose (I don't know where yet)

3. Engine will not turn over by the fan pulley

4. The fuse I pulled for the fuel pump evidently is the wrong one.

5. Starter is not spinning.

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 01:46 PM

1. You had 3 nuts to tighten the fan into the housing, possibly not equally tight.
2/ Fuel leaking is standard problem on the Carrera. I ll take a picture later and include all the possible leaks.
3 You might be filled with gas in a cylinder, pull the plugs and see if it turns then.
4 You shouldnt hear the fuel pump running when youre starting the engine. The relay under the seat controls the fuel pump circuit.
5/ A lot of the Carrera starters have 2 attachment points possible with the 5mm screw, try the second further out point.
I ll get a couple pictures separately for you.
Bruce

peppy 10-15-2012 02:24 PM

Thanks Bruce, the fan was fine until I put the belt on. The fuel leak is on the passenger side on the back of the engine.

I am thinking the fuse I pulled has something to do with the starter not spinning.

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 02:27 PM

this is the fuel line from the filter (long hose, no attachment yet) to the rear connectors each side of the fan to fuel rails.
The long hose to the trar of the picture crosses left to right to the vacuum pods.
The small loop off the vacuum pod hose is a leak possible too.
Starter end of the bendex you can see both small screw hole for the yellow wire..only one works.
Bruce

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Flat6pac 10-15-2012 02:30 PM

Back of the engine where the fan is or where we cannot see forward?
Bruce

peppy 10-15-2012 02:50 PM

Where we can't see forward. I could hear it dripping.

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 03:29 PM

That would be the forward hose between the pods. the picture is the right forward connector. Remove the aircleaner box and this is visible.
Bruce

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peppy 10-15-2012 03:35 PM

That's what I was thinking Bruce.

Is the power for the starter on the engine wiring harness or is there another wire under the car for power?

These are the only wires I connected to the starter.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350344062.jpg

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 03:50 PM

There should be 2 wires on the heavy connector on the starter. One red from the alternator and one black coming along the transmission or the right stuck up behhind a brake line or shock or hot air tube. Thats the power from the battery.
Bruce

peppy 10-15-2012 03:53 PM

Damn glad I didn't burn it to the ground, I did not connect the power to the starter and had a fuel leak almost on top of it.

Do I need to remove the DME relay to prime the oil pump?

peppy 10-15-2012 03:56 PM

I did disconnect the battery before I left today.

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 04:08 PM

You shouldnt need to prime the fuel pump but yes if you do, run a jumper from the battery to the fuel pump fuse, that will make the pump run and charge the system. If you have a leak the work is fruitless.
Bruce

Flat6pac 10-15-2012 04:11 PM

To do the oil system, yes pull the relay and no plugs in and turn it for enough to see the pressure on the guage fluctuate. Then you know you have oil to the cams and through the whole system.
Bruce

peppy 10-15-2012 04:19 PM

Thanks again Bruce, I will try again Friday.

peppy 10-19-2012 01:15 PM

Bruce, it was exactly as you said.

Both ends of the fuel line where leaking at the regulators and the u shaped line was also leaking.

The fan was exactly what you said. I did not have the alternator seated in the housing.

I pulled the plugs and turned the engine with the fan. I will turn it over with the starter tomorrow and build oil pressure.

If all goes well I will start it tomorrow.

Thanks for all the help.

peppy 10-19-2012 02:10 PM

I thought chips where plug and play I am having to solder mine in.



OK, I screwed that up too.

Flat6pac 10-20-2012 02:53 AM

Remember if it doesnt start and everything seems to be in place, the flywheel sensors are the same but do 2 different things. If they wernt marked, change them and once you get started, put some fingernail polish on one set so there is no mistake next time.
Bruce

peppy 10-20-2012 01:22 PM

Ok, I have mailed the computer and chip to Russell Berry for him to fix.

I hope to have this thing going soon.

Smoove1010 10-24-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peppy (Post 7029103)
The engine and transmission balance pretty well right here. I got this from 87 Carrera engine drop
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1350141318.jpg

Peppy - Thanks for creating this thread - I'm using it as one of my main points of reference for when I go down a similar path this winter. Question - why didn't you use the wooden cradle that you used for the drop when you did the install? It looks like a rolled-up rag was used between the jack pad and the bottom of the engine in this pic. Did you do anything to keep the engine from wobbling side-to-side as you moved it around?

That's my first anxiety point - avoiding damage to the engine with the floor jack, or performing a "drop" off the jack! I've read all the "drop" threads, but I like your minimalist approach.

Best of luck and great work, looking forward to reading about a successful launch!

GK

peppy 10-24-2012 09:10 AM

GK I got the idea for the rags from here 87 Carrera engine drop (23 of 36)

Syncroid did the pictures and the engine balanced a lot better than with the contraption I made. The engine and transmission is pretty stable on the jack. Also the power unit is about 3 inches lower.

bigel 11-11-2012 04:29 AM

Peppy, Anxiously awaiting the next installment of your saga...what's going on, man?

I too will be performing a rebuild soon and will use your thread as a reference. I also have a friend that has successfully completed several rebuilds, no Porsche rebuilds, but he has all the tools (gauges, lifts, engine stand, etc.).

Looking forward to you making an announcement that your machine has roared to life!

peppy 11-11-2012 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigel (Post 7085032)
Peppy, Anxiously awaiting the next installment of your saga...what's going on, man?

I too will be performing a rebuild soon and will use your thread as a reference. I also have a friend that has successfully completed several rebuilds, no Porsche rebuilds, but he has all the tools (gauges, lifts, engine stand, etc.).

Looking forward to you making an announcement that your machine has roared to life!

I screwed up the computer and am waiting for repair.

I hope to turn the engine over to build oil pressure tomorrow.

peppy 11-12-2012 12:25 PM

I turned the key and she spun over with ease. The oil light went out in just a few seconds, no oil leaks yet.

Now to get that computer back in, the suspense is killing me.

bigel 11-12-2012 12:30 PM

Well done Peppy...can't wait to see the post that you've got it started!

Will you be posting a summary of the build with a rundown of costs?

Great Post

peppy 11-12-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigel (Post 7087696)
Well done Peppy...can't wait to see the post that you've got it started!

Will you be posting a summary of the build with a rundown of costs?

Great Post

My wife might look at this:D

Lapkritis 11-12-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peppy (Post 7087745)
My wife might look at this:D

Ha! My girlfriend says "I don't even want to know."

bigel 11-15-2012 04:21 PM

Come on, Peppy...what gives?!

peppy 11-16-2012 06:39 AM

Still no computer, it should be here first of the week.

the suspense is killing me.

HiWind 11-18-2012 12:13 AM

Great read .. Thanks for posting and good luck with the last steps!

peppy 11-18-2012 07:03 AM

All clean and still waiting.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1353254494.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1353254512.jpg
My son has never gone for a ride in the Porsche.
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bavaria911 11-18-2012 03:37 PM

Peppy,
He looks like a great son and future Porsche driver, just dont scare him too much on the first launch !

Vr,

bigel 11-24-2012 05:30 PM

What's doing??????? Peppy, where you been bro?

peppy 11-25-2012 06:43 AM

Still waiting patiently for the computer to return.

rberry951 11-28-2012 04:31 PM

Computer...
 
Still working on it, will get it done this week if I don't hit any further snags. So far I've used parts from 3 other computers, it's coming together. Thanks for sending me the link to the thread!

Regards,
Russell

Lapkritis 11-30-2012 11:36 AM

Christmas is coming... would be a good time for a startup.

-Andrew

peppy 12-12-2012 08:49 AM

Start up has happened.:D I have video but, am having issues getting it off my phone.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355334289.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355334304.jpg
Case plug.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355334308.jpg
Tank plug
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Will the idle come down on its own when the engine breaks in, or will I need to adjust it?
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peppy 12-12-2012 01:29 PM

Still no luck with the video, but I have more pictures.
all dry so far
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355351301.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355351311.jpg


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