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Labor time?
Whats a good labor for oil return tubes , the one that expand ?
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03-06-2009, 03:48 PM
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101 projects, p.76 says 1-2h per side. That is DIY. A pro should be able to both sides in less than 2h. IMHO. I did it, long time ago, cannot remember how long it took me (and I am not a pro anyways...).
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03-06-2009, 04:47 PM
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to charge a customer on a side job.
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If you use expandables as the replacement (you should if not rebuilding), this shouldn't take any competent mechanic more than 1 hour shop time (usually the charge minimum). If getting quoted for more, walk.
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03-07-2009, 05:19 AM
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Why would this take 4 hours?
I would think about 10-15 minutes. Half of that would be getting the car jacked up or on a lift.
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03-07-2009, 10:04 AM
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It depends on the car, what HEs on it and if it has air injection in exhaust ports.
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Remember there's an oil-change on this too. ... and often a fair bit of cleaning (hence replacing the tubes). Two hours is fair. ...and with the HE's on some of these can be a REAL bear
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Lets see some exhaust systems are in the way..are they not ?
valve adj too.. Oil change ... yup 1/2 hour LOL
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A- put car in air 1- drain oill 2--remove any exhaust in the way 3- - remove the 12 old tubes 4--install 12 new tubes 5-install exhaust 6-fill up oil B- dwn off lift 7 test drive , check for leaks 8- do the paper work 9 - yea 15 minutes A man has got to know his limitations......... LOL 
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Remember to factor in rusty/frozen & broken exhaust studs as well.
Mike
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Yes for got those,. add an other 30 seconds ..... LOL
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Is that the famous "flat 18" that has 12 oil return tubes? Just asking.....
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My mistake ...I make them
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