Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > 911 Engine Rebuilding Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
47silver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 3,042
Garage
2.4 liter t

do all magnesium cases need align bored when split?
we have my son's 72 on an engine stand it has 82000 miles on it, i was thinking of putting rings not splitting it, but,,,,,while we have it apart,,, i figure new bearings etc...and prefer not to have to wait on the machining to get it back together...
so my question is if we split the case will it need align bored?

__________________
1975 911S Targa
Silver Anniversary Edition
Old 05-19-2014, 05:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
cmcfaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,077
Garage
Send a message via AIM to cmcfaul Send a message via Yahoo to cmcfaul Send a message via Skype™ to cmcfaul
My extremely experienced Porsche engine builder says no. He has built dozens of early 911 engines, including mine without align bore. A ton of others on this board will not agree.

Chris
73 911 E
Old 05-19-2014, 06:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 1,062
Everything that I've read says that it has a lot to do with the temperature that the engine has run at over its life. The presence or absence of an external oil cooler and how and where it has been driven all can make a difference. Has the engine ever pulled any head studs? If yes, this could be a clue of overheating in the past. Also, before thinking about splitting the case, you can remove the rod bearings and inspect the crank journals and the bearing shells. This should give you a clue if you need to delve any deeper.
Old 05-19-2014, 08:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 7,007
JMHO,

I've never seen any mag-cased engine that didn't require a line-bore to ensure that the crankshaft doesn't bind after rebuilding. Failure to do so results in excessive main bearing wear so if this isn't in the budget, I would not split the case.
__________________
Steve Weiner
Rennsport Systems
Portland Oregon
(503) 244-0990
porsche@rennsportsystems.com
www.rennsportsystems.com
Old 05-20-2014, 10:25 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
47silver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 3,042
Garage
maching

i guess the safest route is the machining.
__________________
1975 911S Targa
Silver Anniversary Edition
Old 05-20-2014, 07:29 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
porschetub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1,419
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve@Rennsport View Post
JMHO,

I've never seen any mag-cased engine that didn't require a line-bore to ensure that the crankshaft doesn't bind after rebuilding. Failure to do so results in excessive main bearing wear so if this isn't in the budget, I would not split the case.
Steve interested to know why this is the norm for the early motors,thought this was more related to the later motors 2.7 in particular (small fan and all),if the op isn't puking oil from the case seam or having oil pressure issues he should be fine with a 82k miles for a top end rebuild,there could be reasons that we don't know to the contrary.
Not a question on your knowlege as that appears to be well founded,thanks.
__________________
1985 944 2.7 motor,1989 VW Corrado 16v,57 project plastic speedster t4 power,1992 mk3 Golf,2005 a4 b7 qt avant 3.0 tdi,1987 mk2 Golf GTI,1973 914,2.2t to go in.
Past cars, 17 aircooled VW's and lots of BMW's
KP 13/3/1959-21/11/2014 RIP my best friend.
Old 05-20-2014, 10:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Try not, Do or Do not
 
Henry Schmidt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Fallbrook, Ca. 92028
Posts: 14,099
Garage
Over the years, we have developed ways to measure parts accurately to determine whether parts need to be replaced, reconditioned or just inspected and cleaned.
There are indeed some "rules of thumb" that guide our evaluation of parts but there are few absolutes when it comes to aline boring a case. Over the years (and still today) we have seen many mag engine cases that did not require aline boring.
Heat is generally the key factor.
Early mag cases that developed low heat generally measure out pretty straight by that I mean well within usable tolerance.

__________________
Henry Schmidt
SUPERTEC PERFORMANCE
Ph: 760-728-3062
Email: supertec1@earthlink.net
Old 05-21-2014, 05:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:59 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.