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I have seen keyshot. The reason I ask is your work is absolutely amazing and looks a lot like the recent renderings Singer did of their new 4 cam engine.

Hats off to you sir!
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:04 AM
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Thank you! Yes I've seen the Singer model renderings, they definitely look amazing. I had been planning on doing this engine for a long time but to be honest seeing the Singer renderings lit a fire under me to work on mine.
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previous image made it look like I missed one of the small locking tangs for the washers. They were there but the angle/lighting hid them pretty well.

Also page 2 needed a picture.
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@joe_engineer here.
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Just want to say this stuff looks great and thanks for sharing. Love that you took the time to make it dimensional and accurate and i checked out your artwork, nice stuff! we have similar interests.

Was the car modeling / surfacing done in Creo? id like to model a 73 rsr

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Thanks guys! Nice to see you here Jose!

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I've been using SolidWorks for a couple years and am one of those fanbois. We use Creo too, I may need to try it.

Love this task!!!! Very impressive and a TON of work.
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To give you guys an idea of how much work this is my machinist took 6 *weeks* to hand measure the case and correct dimensions on our model so he could come up with a machining model in SurfCAM to machine the cases. Pic below.

Remember, he was already working with a scan to begin with.....

Optimus won't need to do the inside, which is where a lot of the work is, but even a simple chain housing is a massive task freehand like this. Amazing work!
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Definitely not a project for a beginner, haha. I will be modeling the interior of the case, I just don't need to be concerned with it being accurate beyond about 1mm or so. Many features will be right on the money but only because there details are referenced elsewhere.
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Are you saying you hand measure each part that you then enter into the visual program?? How many hours do you think you have put into it so far?
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can you use the basic info to make the Flat 8 that was in that one 914 ?
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can you use the basic info to make the Flat 8 that was in that one 914 ?
Not sure who you are asking but I'll bite.

Yes, I am capable of making a flat 8 out of my 6 case pretty easily. Actually the impetus behind this project was a flat 12.

Now that I have spent 1.5 years and 150K modeling the case I can make it a flat 16 if i want, LOL. The only thing that matters is the flywheel and pulley ends; the middle part is easy. Adding 2 extra cylinders in the middle would be elementary at this point.
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Are you saying you hand measure each part that you then enter into the visual program?? How many hours do you think you have put into it so far?
Yes, pretty much. Things that have measurements that are widely known, or listed in books i.e. crank journal diameters, stroke lengths, etc) I just use the listed dimensions. Everything else gets measured, rough measurements mostly with calipers or rulers, angle measurements down to +/- 2 degrees, everything else is typically within 0.5mm Items that aren't possible to measure with what I have get approximated or I make educated guesses based on casting or machining techniques.
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Wow. I think I will copy some of the images and have some posters made for my shop if you don't mind.
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Well, my plan is to actually make posters once the project is further along. You can copy if you want, or wait till Im done and buy a higher quality print. Also planning an exploded view line drawing screen printed on a t-shirt.
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Cool, I'll wait. A blown up copy probably wouldn't come out very good.
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Well, my plan is to actually make posters once the project is further along. You can copy if you want, or wait till Im done and buy a higher quality print. Also planning an exploded view line drawing screen printed on a t-shirt.
I am in to purchase - I want to be able to support this amazing effort of yours financially, even if only a little. You have every right to charge for this art. I am a buyer. Put me down for whatever it is you are selling from this.
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I've been using SolidWorks for a couple years and am one of those fanbois. We use Creo too, I may need to try it.

Love this task!!!! Very impressive and a TON of work.
I've found that if you originally learned on Solidworks, or are pretty green, you'll almost always favor Solidworks. I learned on Pro/E, and have been using every new iteration of the software for close to 20 years. So it's no surprise that I'm a Creo fanboy. Haha.



Catorce, thank you!!

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Not a lot of progress on it, but I did render an image with the 914-6/GT model I made.

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That is really outstanding stuff. Love it
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