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| Registered Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dismal Nitch, AZ 
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			I bought that  Marantz Mod. 2325 receiver off eBay.  Seller went on and on about how it had just been tested and it was good to go.   "Best receiver I've ever owned." . Paid $400 to have it put into the condition that the seller crowed about. One light burned out, broken dial string, two off-valued resisters in place where the proper valued resister ought to have been. Other crap wrong with it. My CC company stopped payment (somehow) and we went round and round. Seller's wife called local police to report the issue. They called me and laughed it off. Finally settled on $1,000 minus the $400 to fix if. . Love the unit. Pulls in FM from Prescott, AZ (I'm in Scottsdale) w/o an antenna. Heavy as hell...51 lbs. 
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			I'm OLD School!! My playing amp is a A300 Hardon/Karman. My Records are played threw a Bogen DB-12 in my pool room, Records Only!! Have a Technics Turntable belt drive and a Pioneer Direct Drive. Tubes Rule!!! No sound like it! My record collection would fill up aschen's cabinets + more!! aschen just buy more records and you won't see the wires? Even though some records are worn, the sound is still fuller than any digital recording. Rock&Roll! 
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 97% of my listening is digital. I do like records but I have 3 small kids so I don't get much time with fragile stuff. Ironically I started by the occasional record in the 90s when LPs were super cheap because everyone was trading them in for CDs. Now that kids and hipsters love reccords and prices are way up, Its hard for me to pay 25$ for a new LP these days. I am waiting until the trend dies to start rebuying used. 
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			I love vinyl.....but the vast majority of my listening pleasure was never pressed to vinyl or even commercially released digitally...it's ALWAYS been about the music for me...rock on   Early daze of digital....meh. 3 decades later....it's just fine...warts and all   | ||
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 FWIW I own a Clearaudio Ambient and love the thing. https://clearaudio.de/en/_archive/turntables-ambient.php Last edited by cairns; 07-13-2018 at 10:53 AM.. | ||
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 Just setting up this latest system...had ants in my pants and wanted a turntable. Yes, to you and cairns, on the value....at $1,499 I was OK given what I got. I even sat it on a marble cutting board for purity sake.  ...  ~~~~~~~~~~~ "FWIW I own a Clearaudio Ambient and love the thing." . Sweet!!! 
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| Registered Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dismal Nitch, AZ 
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 So seller (rat fink) got his $389. 
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 Important questions, thank you. Budget is $500 to $1000 Volume is what I would consider very loud, indicator at 1 or 2 o'clock on knob. Couch is about 12+ feet away from system. I am a clean and bright head if there is such a thing. Vibrance and clarity are key. The CM4s don't have much bass when listening at higher volumes and I miss it but lower volumes the sound seems full. Either look is ok with me. You've listed some speakers that I can begin to research, thank you. I would love a set of B&W 803s but can't justify spending so much yet it was easy spending that on an MFI system for a 2.7 RS motor I'm building. Not even a question. Why I look to older, high quality equipment. 
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 Problem is my Altec's are hooked up to a Luxman and I don't really need another amp.  Oh and I'm a dork... the name of your turntable is clearly stated in your post. And looking back at your post to see that and saw... Martin Logan Theos ESL Bi-wire speakers... I remember listening to those in a store once and thinking "how much can I get for a kidney?" 
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			Helping my B-I-L sell his Sansui QRX-9001. He bought it new in the 80s.  Completely serviced a few months ago to the tune of about $400. He's asking $1100.  It's a beauty.   | ||
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			Posted this in the other 'Audiophile' thread, but thought it would make sense here as well for anyone looking to get into records or hifi:  I could probably write a novel on this, but I'll keep it short. - Look for 180g pressings. - German and Japanese pressings sound excellent. - Warner and their subsidiaries until about 1980 all sound pretty good. - New pressings on Concord Music Group are all excellent. - Look for reissues that say they came from the original tapes. - If it says 'Remastered', make sure it's from an analog source and not 'Digitally Remastered'. - Reissue and Repressing are not the same thing. - Color vinyl generally sounds like crap. Entry level EXCELLENT turntable: Rega RP1 Entry level EXCELLENT cartridge: Ortofon 2M Red | ||
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  They're a different experience from your VOTT's, eh? Not that big beautiful Altec sound, but quicker. When I got the itch again back in '15 I knew that I wanted something close to my Apogee Divas w/o the refurbished $20k price. The bi-wire feature is what I wanted, as well. The Theos are no longer made, as I recall. Haven't followed Martin Logan so I don't know their line any more. They work nicely in my huge living area. Placement is critical and I ought to put them in front of an open wall, I know, and not in front of shelving. But they point at my sofa, which is where I rest my tired old body these days. . Sold my vinyl collection when I sold my past system and moved out of CA. Wanting to build another collection...with purity of sound in mind. Have some recommendations for me? Anyone? .   
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			Ok, I could not resist this is my Audio Room. 
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			Im thinking of copying this idea for my speaker cable isolators. I can't stand the idea that I might be leaving expensive sonic goodness on the floor!   
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			That's taking being anal to being ludicrous...nonsensical...laughable.  Unless the goal is to look cute...maybe to look organized. . I go as far as trying to hide my cables...that's pretty much it. To each his own, eh? 
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			prez! ~~~~~~~~~ Nice equip't and layout. I like your album crates. 
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I guess I should have put this in a green font, denoting whimsy and good natured sarcasm!
		 
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			^^^ I got it.   
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