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lol, yea but more than 4mpg
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lol, yea but more than 4mpg
HEY! I've seen 21 MPG on the highway!
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A deep hateful part of my soul wants an N/A 3 rotor FD3S... but I hate Porsche engine prices so I don't see that ever being a thing. lol
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A deep hateful part of my soul wants an N/A 3 rotor FD3S... but I hate Porsche engine prices so I don't see that ever being a thing. lol
Oh, I can one up you and one day I will make it happen.

I am going to put a 3 rotor (20B) into a FF5 Cobra Replica, if I cannot buy back my FC in the next 2-3 years that is my next project.

I am thinking it HAS to be NA in order to create the most obnoxious sound possible.
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I have a FF5 on my list as well, (should have skipped the 911sc) but for me I cannot see anything other than a pushrod Ford under that hood.

Not to mention I lust after the FD, but alas I am not so wealthy to have them all.
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I have a FF5 on my list as well, (should have skipped the 911sc) but for me I cannot see anything other than a pushrod Ford under that hood.

Not to mention I lust after the FD, but alas I am not so wealthy to have them all.
Ah yes,, it is sacrilege and purposefully so. It would be my big middle finger up to all the LSx swappers that put them in everything.

Plus I think it wil be a match made in heaven a nice light car with a a low torque linear power delivery rotary.
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A 20B in a Cobra replica would be worth it for the Cars & Coffee shock value alone.
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That sounds like a ton of fun, but what are the odds of finding one that isn't thoroughly used and in need of tons of maintenance now to make it fit for daily driver duty?
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Slim to none, he has one of the few nice ones out there.

Yes its tough finding one in good condition these days. The good news is that you can still find a fairly decent running one for $4,000.

Working on them is straight forward and if you're resourceful and network you can still find parts. I have a good friend who works for Mazda and we spend time combing through part numbers and determining what parts are still available and what parts might work off a slightly later model.

These cars are very rewarding to drive and own.

Thanks for the compliment Matt, its taken me several years to get my car to this point:

(My apologies for the large picture)



This is what I started with, when I bought the car in July of 2014 for $2,750:

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These are such cool little cars.
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Your daughter doesn't need a 50K car
I agree with that but USED they look to be very reasonable.

2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia RWD - $28,268
*** 7,390 miles ***
with sport appearance package, sport interior package, 18" wheels and leather.

And that is dealer ask, so maybe purchase price is $27k - $27,500 ????

She is a great kid.

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9/6/18 $26,500 5,102 4.3 4GT/A White Lease West Coast Riverside
9/4/18 $23,750 3,968 3.3 4GT/A Gray Regular West Coast Riverside
8/29/18 $8,800* 2,953 - - 4GT/A - - Regular West Coast Southern California
8/8/18 $22,300 8,698 - - 4GT/A Blue Factory Southwest Dallas
7/25/18 $28,000 57 4.9 4GT/A Blue Factory Southeast Georgia
7/25/18 $27,000* 38 5.0 4GT/A Red Factory Southeast Georgia

and for the Ti are:

9/6/18 $25,750 1,770 2.7 - -/- - White Regular West Coast Southern California
8/28/18 $34,500* 20 5.0 4GT/A White Regular Southeast Orlando
8/22/18 $29,500 6,634 4.5 4GT/A Blue Regular West Coast California
7/26/18 $32,200 12,840 4.8 4GT/A White Factory Northeast Fredericksburg
7/26/18 $21,000 10,358 5.0 4GT/A Blue Factory Midwest Arena Illinois
7/26/18 $29,600 12,602 4.1 4GT/A Red Factory Midwest Arena Illinois
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I see some old 240 owners chiming in here! My 97 240SX was and and still is one of my favorite cars to daily drive. 400hp /420 tq with boost that comes on at 2K makes it so fun to drive. I don't do it much anymore because I drive far now, and I'm trying to preserve the original paint as best as I can.




The Focus ST is actually pretty fun too. I was actually surprised that it tripods on the track when you push it! What makes it un-dailyable for me is the face that I just can't heel toe in it for the life of me at low speeds with stock pedals. I end up slamming on the brakes and fully stopping the car. Combination of high seat height and the gas pedal being so low compared to the brake makes it a bit weird.
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Love my E92 M3 as a DD. Poor gas mileage, though.
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Just sitting here thinking about my next car.... currently Doing a Giulia Ti, that replaced my Abarth (missing it).
OP,

1) can you tell us (me) more about the Giulia? I'm considering one just for something different, as a lease, thought maybe a Quadrofoglio lease return next year as a purchase but that's crazy I think - depreciation/reliability... still curious about the base...

2) Mini Cooper S is fun as a GTI alternative, more tossable

3) if considering a classic DD (reliable and a hoot): BMW 2002 base (cheap) easily modified to Tii levels of power. Added benefit: zero depreciation

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I tend to drive very unrealistic (and unluxurious) cars, daily. My 993 is a daily. But to answer your question (not a Porsche...), this intrigues me:

Sorry about the annoying drum music...
So, I own one of these... I'll tell you "my" truth and then go hide under a rock.
I love the brand, the history of it, the designs, etc... the GTV itself is cool and feel special, and that front end is gorgeous.... but driving wise ? meh. It's a pretty car, with a terrible driving position and kinda claustrophobic inside. The nord engine mystique is IMO somewhat overplayed (it's a 4 cylinder, not a Ferrari V12, I find it about as exciting as 4cyl 356 engine) and the car drive exactly the same as a BMW 2002 of the same vintage (with less visibility or comfort) which will be cheaper and IMO more fun to drive and tune. Now ducking and going back into hiding.

PS: I'm selling mine as soon as BaT decides to finally list it - those guys take FOREVER. Don't get me wrong I love it, it's a gorgeous car, but it's redundant next to my bimmer.

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The Focus ST is actually pretty fun too. I was actually surprised that it tripods on the track when you push it! What makes it un-dailyable for me is the face that I just can't heel toe in it for the life of me at low speeds with stock pedals. I end up slamming on the brakes and fully stopping the car. Combination of high seat height and the gas pedal being so low compared to the brake makes it a bit weird.
I recently bought a focus ST for daily driver. They are available for 19k Brand new with huge discounts

The pedal spacing was my only gripe with the car as well. However I fixed it in 17min & $70 with this


https://damondmotorsports.com/collections/focus-st/products/focus-st-accelerator-pedal-spacer
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My Giulia Ti Q4 has the sport seats and the 19"s 5 hole Alfa wheels... it's a very nice car, love the looks, it drives great and rides well. The performance is on par with every other 4 door sport sedan. The lack of a manual trans is a real killer... it would transform the car. I like it, but it just isn't a fun car, I feel a manual and a bit of exhaust would change that.

If you have the money and just 'want" and Alfa it's cool car that turns heads and is pleasant to drive. I would recommend a lease, def not a BUY, it's an Alfa after all. If you want a car that is fun and you actually enjoy driving this isn't it. Its still just an appliance like most 'sporty' sedans today.

After picking up my 911SC, I'm of the opinion that old cars are garbage in just about every way. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy them, but for the love of god don't even think about comparing them to modern cars. A DD IMO should be reliable, which old cars seldom are.....

I live in fear driving my 911 for a $20K sound to rear it's ugly head.

I think the best bang for the buck is still that stupid lil Abarth... such a dumb little car. lol Anything to old and you start to run into operating costs that remove any fun factor the car has.

A 2002ish BMW 330i would be great, but thats pretty old, and the Abarth might be more fun to drive.

If I was in the 500K a year club this wouldn't be an issue... ahh the life of being poor.
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So, I own one of these... I'll tell you "my" truth and then go hide under a rock.
I love the brand, the history of it, the designs, etc... the GTV itself is cool and feel special, and that front end is gorgeous.... but driving wise ? meh. It's a pretty car, with a terrible driving position and kinda claustrophobic inside. The nord engine mystique is IMO somewhat overplayed (it's a 4 cylinder, not a Ferrari V12, I find it about as exciting as 4cyl 356 engine) and the car drive exactly the same as a BMW 2002 of the same vintage (with less visibility or comfort) which will be cheaper and IMO more fun to drive and tune. Now ducking and going back into hiding.

PS: I'm selling mine as soon as BaT decides to finally list it - those guys take FOREVER. Don't get me wrong I love it, it's a gorgeous car, but it's redundant next to my bimmer.
No need to hide. Nice summary. Yes, I have some experience with older Alfa Spiders, and totally get what you're saying in regards to the engine/performance. Truth be told, with the GTV, I am a total sucker for the looks!!!! DROOOOL.
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Yasin, don't ever apologize for posting pictures of your 323 GTX! I love those things.

Eric, my first nice car was a 1993 240SX coupe. Really great little car that took a ton of abuse from me as a teen, I put about 50k on that car and sold it to a friend of my wife's who put another 50k-ish on it before neglecting her oil and destroying the engine. I would LOVE a properly built Silvia replica with an SR20DET, the KA24DE was really the only low point of the car.

Some interesting feedback here. Focus ST is a lot of fun, I daily drove one for a year and enjoyed it. Several references to the Mini and Fiat 500, I've owned several Minis and while they were fun, they were unreliable and sucked to work on. I'm yet to read anything good about maintaining a 500, it's always sounded like they are true to every Italian car cliche. I have heard that the Abarth is great fun to drive though!

I'm not sure what the price range would be, but other potential contenders in the hot hatch world would be a used Focus RS, Golf R, CLA45 AMG, GLA45 AMG, Volvo V40 R-Design, or TT-RS. New contenders that I don't think have been mentioned are the Civic SI or Type R or Hyundai Veloster N.
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I love the Focus RS, is it everything I like in a car... totally childish, but they have huge engine issues The Golf R is an amazing car, but like the 996TT it is a very fast Camery. Very fast, but no charm. I had a MK6 GTi and sold it to get the Abarth (which was trouble free for 30K). I bet with a fund and exhaust the Golf R would be amazing and is on my watch list.

Civic type R might be the only car to make a Subaru look attractive. lol

I have never even looked at the AMG, all autos right.... Benz has always been an 'old mans' car to me. Though i'm now 'old' (over 40)

FYI I had a 90 Nissan S13 Sil80 full SR20DET amazing engine.
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Yeah the AMGs are all autos, big miss in my mind too. Civic Type R is fugly but supposed to be amazing to drive. I actually prefer the Type R to the SI, adding the extra crazy to the fugly makes it at least look purposeful.
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