I know it is just a movie, BUT....

[GH85Carrera]

I watched "The Italian Job" remake last night. It is entertaining, but has no concept of physics like so many movies.

They have the expert mechanic come in and modify three Mini Coopers to be able to carry 2,700 pounds of gold and still be really fast. Yea, right.

I friend of mine has a F250 that has a realistic ability of hauling 2,700 pounds of gold (in theory) and there is not much that is delicate or small in the vehicle.

And of course they jump the Minis with 2,700 pounds of gold in the back, and can still handle like a sports car through traffic.

It is like the Hollywood writers just don't care about physics. In so many movies a bad guy get shot with a handgun and they go flying backwards. The gun would kick so hard it would be impossible to hold.

And of course the favorite, the generous 100 pound 5 foot tall woman that can kick 290 pound 6 foot 6 man and knock him out with one kick and make him fly backwards.

Ah well, I will still watch the movies and laugh at how silly it is. But just once I want to see the Jackie Chan sized man fight a guy the size of the Rock, and have a realistic outcome. Size really does matter and no amount of training can overcome physics. That is why there are weight limits in all forms of wrestling and fighting or boxing. The heavyweights are at the top of the list and the lighter weights don't have a chance against them.

[scottmandue]

I love when here is a fight with multiple punches to the face and in the next scene the guy doesn't have a scratch.

[vash]

i quit caring as a young kid when i saw the General Lee come apart in slow-mo on the landing..only to come to a skidding stop in the next scene unscathed.

i pay them to tickle my imagination..not my reality.

in that movie they used Charlize!!

[herr_oberst]

It's always funny how the heroes and villains can survive multiple, massive beatdowns and accidents, any ONE of which would have a real human down and out for days, and still stand to deliver and take more mayhem and abuse.

The worst of this in my memory is "Face Off", but "Atomic Blonde" is definitely in the running for a close second.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

And of course the favorite, the generous 100 pound 5 foot tall woman that can kick 290 pound 6 foot 6 man and knock him out with one kick and make him fly backwards. .

Charlize Theoron is 5"10, Ed norton 6"0. I've seen smaller woman kick the living $hit out of bigger guys at the dojo... But you're saying movies aren't realistic, fair enough...
(PS: that came out 15y ago. wow!)

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

The worst of this in my memory is "Face Off", but "Atomic Blonde" is definitely in the running for a close second.

Well in Atomic blonde (Hey Charlize again), they had the decency to make her look beat up at the end...
My beef is people who "pass out" after a punch. Oh it's gonna hurt but you aren't likely to pass out like that...

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

I love when here is a fight with multiple punches to the face and in the next scene the guy doesn't have a scratch.

We used to process the Police Department's evidence and crime scene photos, and for several hospitals. A person that has taken a few punches to the face will have more than a slight trickle of blood from the corner of their mouth to wipe off with their finger. It is crazy how much a lip can swell and how bad a black eye can look. Having seen the result of a beatdown, it is not pretty. That is why the actors never show the realistic results of a punch to the face.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

We used to process the Police Department's evidence and crime scene photos, and for several hospitals. A person that has taken a few punches to the face will have more than a slight trickle of blood from the corner of their mouth to wipe off with their finger. It is crazy how much a lip can swell and how bad a black eye can look. Having seen the result of a beatdown, it is not pretty. That is why the actors never show the realistic results of a punch to the face.

It can take weeks to recover from getting punched in the face, but in the movies it only takes 30 seconds.

The worst show on TV for being realistic is Family guy.
Like when quagmire flew the passenger airplane upside down to foil the terrorists.
Seems every week there's something on that show that is un-possible.

[ckelly78z]

Hollywood is full of false heroes, some of these tools start to believe it themselves.

[URY914]

I always like it when Tom Cruise was crawling through the duct work in the CIA headquarters. Then he just pops a grill out and drops down into the room.....

[pwd72s]

It's called "willing suspension of disbelief"...

[scottmandue]

But we all know that a giant radioactive lizard stomped all over Tokyo... right?

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by URY914

I always like it when Tom Cruise was crawling through the duct work in the CIA headquarters. Then he just pops a grill out and drops down into the room.....

I used to install duct work a million years ago.
1. It is not smooth inside duct work, it is usually held up with straps that are screwed into the duct.
2. It is usually not clean inside duct work.
3. Grills generally don't pop off, they are usually screwed into place.

[Neilk]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

It's called "willing suspension of disbelief"...

more like "unwilling suspension of disbelief" for Glen!

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

It's called "willing suspension of disbelief"...

That is easy or me when it is a science fiction or fantasy movie. When it is a movie that is "supposed" to reflect normal mortal humans, and they can fly around like the movie Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, it is laughable.

I really do enjoy some of the Jackie Chan movies and his stunts. Some of the best part is the outtakes he usually shows at the end of the movie. It is supposed to be a light fun movie, and for sure not a documentary.

But Bruce Willis or Tom Cruise just can't go down an ventilation duct, that is always pristine and clean, and not make a LOT of noise.

[MBAtarga]

So next thing I'm going to hear is that you CAN'T dodge bullets like in the movie Matrix and Wanted?

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I watched "The Italian Job" remake last night. It is entertaining, but has no concept of physics like so many movies.

They have the expert mechanic come in and modify three Mini Coopers to be able to carry 2,700 pounds of gold and still be really fast. Yea, right.

I friend of mine has a F250 that has a realistic ability of hauling 2,700 pounds of gold (in theory) and there is not much that is delicate or small in the vehicle.

And of course they jump the Minis with 2,700 pounds of gold in the back, and can still handle like a sports car through traffic.

It is like the Hollywood writers just don't care about physics. In so many movies a bad guy get shot with a handgun and they go flying backwards. The gun would kick so hard it would be impossible to hold.

And of course the favorite, the generous 100 pound 5 foot tall woman that can kick 290 pound 6 foot 6 man and knock him out with one kick and make him fly backwards.

Ah well, I will still watch the movies and laugh at how silly it is. But just once I want to see the Jackie Chan sized man fight a guy the size of the Rock, and have a realistic outcome. Size really does matter and no amount of training can overcome physics. That is why there are weight limits in all forms of wrestling and fighting or boxing. The heavyweights are at the top of the list and the lighter weights don't have a chance against them.

Many years ago I went to the first F&F movie with a bunch of car friends optimistic they were going to get it right.

We walked out dismayed and angry.

I give a movie like the Italian Job a pass because while it is sort of a car movie it is more of a movie about a robbery, being double crossed and getting revenge.

F&F was purely a car movie, I have never seen more than 5 minutes of any one of those movies after that first one.


How about movies where they are shooting guns inside confined areas and no one is deaf afterwards? That really grinds my gears.

[GH85Carrera]

Matrix is pure Science Fiction. Superman or any superhero movies are fantasy.

Just don't show me the kid in 2018 normal reality time that can use his PDA or cell phone and hack into the FBI and change files.

On ALL the shows, TV and movies the "hacker" can just pound on random keys, often the same few keys over and over, never ever use the enter key, or the space bar, and god forbid need to use the arrow keys or back space or touch a mouse, and hack into any system in the world in minutes. Why don't they film some professional typists entering code, and at least fake that sort of typing?

[pwd72s]

Most movie pool playing scenes are a joke...easy to tell when it's an actor pretending to be skilled at the game.

There are exceptions. Jackie Gleason, Tom Cruise, and Paul Newman all had good strokes. Gleason because he was a player. Newman and Cruise because they were trained by the best players of the time. Actually, because of this training, both became pretty good players. Other actors and comedians have a like of the game.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Most movie pool playing scenes are a joke...easy to tell when it's an actor pretending to be skilled at the game.

There are exceptions. Jackie Gleason, Tom Cruise, and Paul Newman all had good strokes. Gleason because he was a player. Newman and Cruise because they were trained by the best players of the time. Actually, because of this training, both became pretty good players. Other actors and comedians have a like of the game.

Say what you will about Cruz but he goes all in every time.

Latest Mission Impossible he actually learned how to fly a helicopter so he could do his scenes himself.

[Crowbob]

That's it!

I'm never going to a movie again.

Way to go, guys.