Who shoots through their own windshield?

[aap1966]

Re the thread:Crazy Police Chase/shooting:
Crazy Police Chase/shooting:

Asking as some-one unfamiliar with firearms, how would that affect your aim and the penetration of the shot?
I understand the sniper 'double shot' idea of first bullet breaks the glass, second hits the target, but would that apply here?
How effective (and bystander safe) are shots from moving vehicles in terms of taking out a target, as opposed to suppressive fire?

Curious from a purely technical point of view, let's not PARF this........

Thanks in advance.

[crb07]

Bullet will travel through the glass in the shortest path, as in it should exit close to 90 degrees to glass surface. Lots of other variables like round and velocity. But in this case I would imagine first round exited at an upward angle. There are some vids online, will try to find one.

[ckelly78z]

I can't imagine anyone that actually knows anything about firing a weapon would try this...most drive-bys are done out of an open passenger window. The guy got what he deserved.

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by aap1966

how would that affect your aim and the penetration of the shot?.

aim?

there was no aiming in this shoot, just spray and pray

[Jim Richards]

It improves ventilation for the vehicle occupants.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

It improves ventilation for the vehicle occupants.

And make their ears ring, I imagine...

[Tobra]

The noise did not bother them until the passenger started in with the AR15.

If you were alone and were chasing someone that is shooting at you, maybe, if you were not near any people. Two guys in car, driver drives, passenger shoots

[James Brown]

https://youtu.be/h1ddVlhpzmE its now taught at the academy

[crb07]

https://www.tactical-life.com/lifestyle/tactics/science-shooting-through-glass/

https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/210194-shooting-through-windshield

[Mike80911]

I would imagine the laminated glass would effect the speed and trajectory of the bullet. As for the first rounds making the hole used for the following rounds I would be amazed at the accuracy of someone who could drive a car with one hand and shoot through a quarter sized hole again and again. As we saw in the video the bullet only makes a small hole in the windshield.

[CalPersFatCat]

Originally Posted by James Brown

https://youtu.be/h1ddVlhpzmE its now taught at the academy

Shooting through vehicle windshields from a moving vehicle or at a moving vehicle, is not taught at police academies in the US.

Demonstrations for round deflection, round denigration, and round penetration (or lack thereof) do occur at some US police academies, for the purpose of familiarization, not for the purpose of acquiring a skill or improving a skill.

Use of force policies at evolved US law enforcement agencies prohibit firing from a moving vehicle and/or at a moving vehicle. Present day Use of Force reports will ALWAYS reflect that the intent of the shooting officer was to strike a subject inside the moving vehicle, not to strike the vehicle itself. This detail may seem elementary, but it is not.The detail is crucial for the purposes of shielding law enforcement within the umbrella of liability protection. See Qualified Immunity.

Officers seated inside police vehicles who shoot through their own windshields will inevitably suffer from glass shards in their eyes. This will occur even when wearing glasses or sun glasses. I have never understood why glasses do not prevent this. My belief is that maybe gravity does not pull the particles immediately downward and the particles float within the vehicle for a period of time.

DL

[speeder]

I was trying to find the body cam video from the LAPD cops in the Trader Joe's shootout last summer in L.A. They were actually being shot at during a pursuit, (through the broken rear glass of the car they were chasing), and the more senior officer driving is telling the female passenger officer, "don't shoot...DO NOT SHOOT" because they were driving on a street w other cars and houses, etc...

And they were getting shot at, as opposed to having an air pistol pointed out a window at them.

[speeder]

Here's the thread on that but some of the video is gone including the in-car.

Little Problem at my local Trader Joe’s