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tabs 08-04-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10547053)
Enemies of democracy is more accurate. If the stated intent is to incite a race war or other violence, then it should be illegal.

It is Facism whatever you want to call it...

cabmandone 08-04-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10547066)
No, you just voted or and enabled a racist. Doesn't make you a racist, but it doesn't put you in good company either.

Patrick,
Does it make me a racist that I believe people should enter this country legally regardless of their situation? Because it seems that's what makes the President a racist. Don't you find it just a bit odd that all this "racist" nonsense started after he won the election? I don't recall ever seeing anyone refer to Trump as a racist when he was donating to and supporting democrats. Why do you suppose that would be?
Don't let the nonsense cloud your vision. When racism becomes everything... nothing is really racist at that point... and we're painfully close to that point now.

tabs 08-04-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10547088)
Why isn't this thread in PARF where it belongs?

Because they thought they could avoid you by putting it here.

KFC911 08-04-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10547103)
Because it doesn't belong there. There is nothing political about someone going off the deep end and shooting a bunch of people. Overly political people choose to politicize the issue. It sickens me how people speculate about the race and political affiliation of someone when they do something like this. Crazy knows no one political group. Hate doesn't reside in one political group more than another.

While I agree with you about this....methinks this is definately a PARF (political) thread for different reasons.

Rawknees'Turbo 08-04-2019 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10547112)
Patrick,
Does it make me a racist that I believe people should enter this country legally regardless of their situation? Because it seems that's what makes the President a racist. Don't you find it just a bit odd that all this "racist" nonsense started after he won the election? I don't recall ever seeing anyone refer to Trump as a racist when he was donating to and supporting democrats. Why do you suppose that would be?
Don't let the nonsense cloud your vision. When racism becomes everything... nothing is really racist at that point... and we're painfully close to that point now.

I have to pretty much agree with that, CabsSuckBiggly! :) While his go back where you came from comment was filled with remarkable dumbassery, even for him, it is a real stretch to say that is hard evidence of DT's racist core (more like simple evidence of his ultra-high-level stupidity and immaturity), and his elementary school barbs directed at the Baltimore area, while laughably moronic and prepubescent in nature, had no racist element at all.

island911 08-04-2019 05:29 PM

Drudge put up his manifesto https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

He disliked Corporations, Mass Polluters, and Racial impurity.

Disliked Democrats for importing illegal voters using enticements like free healthcare.
Disliked Republicans for supporting the illegals via corporations (looking for cheap workers)

That's a weird mix. So much for intersectionality.

Anyway, the short version of his manifesto is: The US is full. Stay Out!

rfuerst911sc 08-04-2019 05:32 PM

This thread has gone in a direction I had hoped would be avoided . For those that chimed in with non political comments thank you . Moderators if you want to close or move this thread go ahead .

cabmandone 08-04-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10547124)
I have to pretty much agree with that, CabsSuckBiggly! :) While his go back where you came from comment was filled with remarkable dumbassery, even for him, it is a real stretch to say that is hard evidence of DT's racist core (more like simple evidence of his ultra-high-level stupidity and immaturity), and his elementary school barbs directed at the Baltimore area, while laughably moronic and prepubescent in nature, had no racist element at all.

That's a point I've made for quite a while. I don't think he's a racist, he just has no filter between his brain and his fingers or his mouth. The guy says some INCREDIBLY stupid stuff... but does it really qualify as racist? Not in my book... and I'm not a racist... you can ask my two black friends! :D

fintstone 08-04-2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10547097)
While I don't know if Trump is an actual racist or bigot (no absolutely certain evidence of that that I've seen), it sure seems that he enjoys making people think that he is (the whole, rile people up with outlandish, stoopid, and often blatantly false commentary whenever he can, for his own personal amusement - the primary reason he wanted to be POTUS, after all). And maybe some of that is a strategic ploy on his part to gain the white supremacists' votes (the sheer numbers of those in America is probably far greater than anyone estimates - including the closeted ones)...

He doesn't say anything that any intelligent person would construe as racist...or else his distractors could quote him doing so. Don't believe the nonsense his political enemies cook up to push to the poorly informed. That is about as accurate as the whole Russian conspiracy that was soundly refuted.

Obviously there are a lot more minorities than white supremacists...so that is a pretty stupid strategy to get elected that you attribute to the guy that outsmarted all 17 Republicans candidates and the Queen of the Democrat Party.

Rawknees'Turbo 08-04-2019 05:38 PM

Cab,

Are they full-black, or mixed, bro?!?!?!

island911 08-04-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10546220)
Realistically, it is not possible to discuss gun violence apolitically.

Post #2 (first reply)

Crowbob drop'n wisdom. And anyone clicking on this thread knows that what he posted is true.

fintstone 08-04-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10547135)
This thread has gone in a direction I had hoped would be avoided . For those that chimed in with non political comments thank you . Moderators if you want to close or move this thread go ahead .

LOL. They always make it political...and everything is just peachy, until someone disagrees with the far-left talking points they post.

fintstone 08-04-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10547124)
I have to pretty much agree with that, CabsSuckBiggly! :) While his go back where you came from comment was filled with remarkable dumbassery, even for him, it is a real stretch to say that is hard evidence of DT's racist core (more like simple evidence of his ultra-high-level stupidity and immaturity), and his elementary school barbs directed at the Baltimore area, while laughably moronic and prepubescent in nature, had no racist element at all.

Since there is significant evidence that her immigration was fraudulent and the penalty for that is sending you back where you came from (whether from Ireland or from Chad), how would anyone construe that as racist?

Folks that hate this country should probably go elsewhere. So many promised to do so if Hillary was not elected...yet they all seem to have stayed. What is up with that?

tabs 08-04-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10546672)
It is simply primitive think to blame the inanimate object.

I put my shoes on the alter in my shrine to shoes and pray to them.

Superman 08-04-2019 05:56 PM

You guys are extremely stoopid. :)

tabs 08-04-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10547143)
He doesn't say anything that any intelligent person would construe as racist...or else his distractors could quote him doing so. Don't believe the nonsense his political enemies cook up to push to the poorly informed. That is about as accurate as the whole Russian conspiracy that was soundly refuted.

Obviously there are a lot more minorities than white supremacists...so that is a pretty stupid strategy to get elected that you attribute to the guy that outsmarted all 17 Republicans candidates and the Queen of the Democrat Party.

If you say it often enough it becomes so

Rawknees'Turbo 08-04-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10547143)
He doesn't say anything that any intelligent person would construe as racist...or else his distractors could quote him doing so. Don't believe the nonsense his political enemies cook up to push to the poorly informed. That is about as accurate as the whole Russian conspiracy that was soundly refuted.

Obviously there are a lot more minorities than white supremacists...so that is a pretty stupid strategy to get elected that you attribute to the guy that outsmarted all 17 Republicans candidates and the Queen of the Democrat Party.

A confession; when I first read DT's, go back where you came from, remarks, my initial reaction was that the Orange Man Bad had actually just come out as a full blown bigot (that phrase being a long standing, easily recognised barbaric yelp of bigots), but then after some thought, I decided that those comments were simply the immature stupidity (aka - three of his targets were born here, so they would have to first leave and then come back to America = dumbass) of a big ol' baby.

Agreed that there are likely more minorities than white supremacists, but minorities typically don't vote and maybe white supremacists do (probably no stats on that)? Regardless, I doubt his comments were a thought out ploy (just something to consider and idly speculate about) - but simply a tantrum when he was feeling challenged.




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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10547169)
Since there is significant evidence that her immigration was fraudulent and the penalty for that is sending you back where you came from (whether from Ireland or from Chad), how would anyone construe that as racist?

Folks that hate this country should probably go elsewhere. So many promised to do so if Hillary was not elected...yet they all seem to have stayed. What is up with that?

That's known as, all talk and no c*ck!

Tervuren 08-04-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10547097)
While I don't know if Trump is an actual racist or bigot (no absolutely certain evidence of that that I've seen), it sure seems that he enjoys making people think that he is (the whole, rile people up with outlandish, stoopid, and often blatantly false commentary whenever he can, for his own personal amusement - the primary reason he wanted to be POTUS, after all). And maybe some of that is a strategic ploy on his part to gain the white supremacists' votes (the sheer numbers of those in America is probably far greater than anyone estimates - including the closeted ones).




Hush! If moved there, I won't be able to read and participate in it! :)

The people calling Trump a racist that I have talked to tend to say that "he covers it up by being extra nice to people of other races, but I believe him to be a racist".

Which pretty much ends any argument I might have since no amount of observable action by Trump would suffice to counter a belief held in spite of any observable actions.

I have to disagree with your assessment that Trump tries to appeal to white supremacists. Why'd he attempt to publicly bail out a black rapper if that were the case? Why does he publicly communicate with Kanye West?

Trump won because he was good at figuring out when the issues he supported would also be supported by demographics that would get him elected. I would say that black votes are more important to him than white supremacist votes.

fintstone 08-04-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10547180)
If you say it often enough it becomes so

Yes, that is apparently their strategy. I guess it is the only thing they have.

Rawknees'Turbo 08-04-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10547212)
The people calling Trump a racist that I have talked to tend to say that "he covers it up by being extra nice to people of other races, but I believe him to be a racist".

Which pretty much ends any argument I might have since no amount of observable action by Trump would suffice to counter a belief held in spite of any observable actions.

I have to disagree with your assessment that Trump tries to appeal to white supremacists. Why'd he attempt to publicly bail out a black rapper if that were the case? Why does he publicly communicate with Kanye West?

Trump won because he was good at figuring out when the issues he supported would also be supported by demographics that would get him elected. I would say that black votes are more important to him than white supremacist votes.

Terv, I didn't mean that as an assessment, but just thinking out loud about possible motivations for DT's rhetoric.

Agreed about the futility of debating beliefs that held without observable evidence (one sees that all the time, especially in the "R" component of PARF :)).

Lots to think about in your post, BTW.


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