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stealthn 08-05-2019 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 10548315)
Switzerland also requires everyone to serve in the military, what’s your point

Rawknees'Turbo 08-05-2019 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 10548246)
The "blame movies and video games" thing is a bit tired IMO. Sort of like the "Satanic Panic" back in the 70's, or blaming "heavy metal" music.
We've had gun violence in movies for almost as long as movies have existed. Plenty of westerns, horror flicks, mobster flicks, cop flicks, etc.

The depiction of "splattered brains" in films has been around for 60+ years. Some of the most gory of the bunch came from the 60's/70's.
I pretty much think the same with regard to the influence of video games, violent movies, etc., but one thing that is very different now than to how it was back in the day is teens' (even much younger than that, really) ready, easy and free access to the hardest of hardcore porn - much of which is extremely violent toward women. I wonder what type of impact that is having on the minds of young males, as everyone must know that they are looking at it like crazy (very easy to hide that sort of activity from parents, no matter how smart the parents think they are).

cabmandone 08-05-2019 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10548416)
Doesn't matter. It's the consensus favorite.
So then you do favor banning the next consensus favorite?... because there will be a next.... and a next... and a next.... you might as well turn in that pistol you said you own now. How about addressing the real problems?

cabmandone 08-05-2019 04:28 PM
C'mon Rawk... you know there's always "evidence" :eek:

Rawknees'Turbo 08-05-2019 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10548444)
C'mon Rawk... you know there's always "evidence" :eek:
I'm not talking about when lil' Johnny peeps at YOUR salacious computer files and leaves electronic footprints!!! :eek: :D

As far as another type of evidence - ewwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

cabmandone 08-05-2019 04:34 PM
Dern it Johnny why is the keyboard a mess again?

PSA: "if you run out of conditioner before you run out of shampoo.. your child might have a problem"

rusnak 08-05-2019 04:36 PM
Obviously the answer is to ban fertilizer, pipes, and pressure cookers too. Because when bad things happen, there MUST be a way to put a ginormous prophylactic on the world via more laws, more bans on things people do, and more government in general just because, "government". Never mind the fact that there will always be bad and dangerous people. The bubble world ideal just sounds soooo much like being back in the womb it must be good, right? Riiiiighht?

Oklahoma City:
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Atlanta:
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Boston:
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Rawknees'Turbo 08-05-2019 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10548449)
Dern it Johnny why is the keyboard a mess again?

PSA: "if you run out of conditioner before you run out of shampoo.. your child might have a problem"
Ha ha - nice! :D

Dayuuummnnn, I was born about 30-35 years too early, as if I were a teen now, I would be going apeshiit wild searching every corner of the web for all the smut I could find (what's to say I'm not now though, right?!?! :eek:) . . . poor tweener me only had the option of shoplifting beat mags like crazy, which i did, and thought that was the most awesome of awesomeness! :D

tabs 08-05-2019 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10548444)
C'mon Rawk... you know there's always "evidence" :eek:
Corgi has been BANNED MULTIPLE TIMES for antisocial behavior on this Board..He poses a threat to society so he should lose his right to gun ownership.

Rawknees'Turbo 08-05-2019 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 10548293)
Pure emo idiocy. ...TDS.

. . .
Weren't many of youse non-Obama-groomers convinced that he was inciting tension, unrest and outright violence with his various comments? How is the bombast that comes farting out of President Trump any different in that regard (doesn't it likely motivate some people to take their penchant for jackassery to the next level - not talking about motivating the far left to act like braying donkeys, as that Trump-effect is obvious :))?

tabs 08-05-2019 05:15 PM
Gun prices have just gone up....

Sooner or later 08-05-2019 05:20 PM
https://www.docdroid.net/grcnGaG/2019-shooters.docx#page=2http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565054416.jpg



The list does not include those shootings where no one will speak to police.

At least 20 of the mass shootings this year were in Chicago, Illinois.


More than 140 mass shootings are unsolved largely because no one will give descriptions to the police.

javadog 08-05-2019 05:25 PM
Well, so much for the theory that it’s a crime committed predominately by young white males.

The media is wrong again!

berettafan 08-05-2019 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10548339)
"Buckshot comes in various sizes. Nominal pellet diameter ranges from .24 caliber for No. 4 buck to .38 caliber for four-ought buck. The most popular buckshot is 00 buck, which has a nominal pellet diameter of .33 caliber. The number of pellets per shell is governed by their size and their weight. Generally, shotshell ammunition has a payload of between 3⁄4 and 1 1⁄2 ounces. It takes about eight 00-buck pellets to make up a 3⁄4-ounce load. The more the payload weighs, the more recoil you'll experience. Recoil can also be increase with velocity. Most buckshot loads vary in velocity between 1,100 and 1,600 fps."

.33 x 8 @ 1100 to 1600 fps.. Figure it out. It's more lethal in a close quarters situation than a single bullet and the shooter would have to fire about 8 times to equal what would be shot per trigger pull through a semi automatic shotgun. An AR is not the most effective tool.


Are you suggesting one pellet of buck can do the same damage as a 7.62 or .223 rifle round?

I surely hope not.

berettafan 08-05-2019 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10548472)
Weren't many of youse non-Obama-groomers convinced that he was inciting tension, unrest and outright violence with his various comments? How is the bombast that comes farting out of President Trump any different in that regard (doesn't it likely motivate some people to take their penchant for jackassery to the next level - not talking about motivating the far left to act like braying donkeys, as that Trump-effect is obvious :))?


Shaun’s comments are childish and emotional. Worse than useless. Beneath this entire thread and that includes virtually everyone on it.

daepp 08-05-2019 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10548017)
Weapons bans work great. No other first world country on earth has the problems we have with mass shootings. All of them have strict controls and bans and on weapons. Their populations use the same internet, watch the same violent movies, and play the same video games as we do. And yet, not a single one of those countries has the same epidemic of mass shootings as we do. Not a single one.
After Great Britain began enforcing gun bans, check out what happened knife murders - Wow!

island911 08-05-2019 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 10548432)
Switzerland also requires everyone to serve in the military, what’s your point
:D really?

The point is, guns are not the problem.

Well, I suppose that one could conclude that a lack of guns is a problem.

I will also note that part of the anti-gun reaction is because individuals really do NOT want to feel like they need to carry a gun. I get that. I mean, what a pain. We pay police to do that for us.

I'm just saying, I do have respect for those who don't want the hassle and choose not to carry. I have more respect for those who do carry. And low respect for those who complain that no one should have that right. --that is simply not realistic.

island911 08-05-2019 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 10548451)
Daaayummm....

Wasn't perpetrator ex-military? (I'm guessing he had access to military fully automatic assault rifles and knew how to use them.)

madcorgi 08-05-2019 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10548441)
So then you do favor banning the next consensus favorite?... because there will be a next.... and a next... and a next.... you might as well turn in that pistol you said you own now. How about addressing the real problems?
If there was an equally easy to get and use alternative that had similar killing power, then yes, I would want to ban that. But no such thing currently exists, and the possibility that one may be developed can be addressed when and if it happens.

Until then, tell me why the gun hobby (which is what we're talking about here) is worth more than the lives that were lost even this last weekend.

madcorgi 08-05-2019 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by daepp (Post 10548513)
After Great Britain began enforcing gun bans, check out what happened knife murders - Wow!
How many were lost in mass knifings in Britain this year? Hundreds? Did they have multiple mass knifings with dozens of victims in a single weekend?

You can't pass laws that completely prevent violence, but you sure as hell can diminish the ability of bad people to commit it on a mass scale.


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