"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
Damn those republicans! Oh wait...That was Obama in 2008.

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, 'We're gonna punish our enemies, "
Damn those republicans! Oops Obama again.

What I'm getting at is, quit with the bull****.

or just a S&W mp15-22 and a bunch of mags..
barely any recoil
volume of fire
quick reloads
light

LOL, Nick; you're making Jim's head hurt. :D

He has one narrative and you just blew it up.

I've been trying very hard to keep my comments here non political but when I see the kind of jackassery Jim posted... I can't let it go. Jim is actually part of the problem here. "Your side did it!" without even realizing democrats are just as guilty. Politicians have done a FANTASTIC job of diving this country.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7319821/El-Paso-Walmart-shooter-Patrick-Crusius-father-penned-book-life-drug-addiction.html

El Paso Walmart mass shooter Patrick Crusius' father admits to nearly 40 years of drug addiction which tore apart his family and claims he has spoken directly to Jesus


Patrick Crusius' father Bryan wrote a memoir of almost 40 years of drug and alcohol addiction which he says tore apart both his marriages

The El Paso gunman and his twin sister Emily are Bryan Crusius' youngest children; they have an elder half-brother Austin and an elder brother, Blake

Crusius Sr. writes that he has been an addict for almost 40 years despite being a therapist himself saying that he suffered from alcoholism

He said he also took drugs including Vicodine, Quaaludes, hallucinogenics and magic mushrooms
He now claims to be cured after Jesus spoke directly to him and having a spiritual encounter with his grandmother Mabel

Book offers some insight into suspect's upbringing but does not explain the twisted racial hatred he spewed in alleged online manifesto

The father of the 21-year-old man arrested for the El Paso shooting massacre was a drug addict for almost 40 years and is now an energy healer who claims to have had visions of Jesus Christ and his dead grandmother, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Patrick Crusius allegedly killed at least 20 people and injured 26 on a gun rampage which began in a Walmart parking lot in El Paso, Texas on Saturday morning before he was arrested by police.
His father, Bryan Crusius, 63, revealed in a 2014 memoir details of the broken home his son grew up in, confessing to decades of drug and alcohol abuse that led to the breakup of both his first marriage and his 18-year relationship with the alleged shooter’s mother.

The book offers some insight into the mass shooter’s upbringing - but not what turned him into an apparently white supremacist-inspired multiple murderer who was cold-blooded enough to make sure he was taken alive.

His father’s book at least suggest that lengthy and rambling postings are in the family.

Crusius Sr, who now works as a licensed therapist and ‘energy and sound medicine practitioner’ in Allen, Texas, claims in the rambling memoir to have had a conversation with Jesus in a vision and had a spiritual encounter with his dead grandmother, Mabel.

The book, entitled Life Enthusiasm: A Path to Purpose Beyond Recovery, reveals how Crusius Sr struggled with mental health problems that impacted his four children - the son from his first marriage, Austin, who he left in California with his ex-wife Kathleen, and his three children from his second marriage to Lori - Patrick; his twin sister Emily; and their older brother Blake.

A teaser on the back of the $12.95 book’s cover says that before writing his memoir he had ‘descended into a profound and unsustainable apathy in which life no longer seemed purposeful or worthwhile’ after ‘thirty years of dependence on mind-altering chemicals’.

The therapist, who says he has now kicked drugs and drink, through ‘a unique synthesis of traditional talk therapy with multiple energy modalities’ which he says ‘infuses spiritual principles, sound healing, guided meditation, life force energy, and other eclectic methods with traditional talk therapy.’

In the first chapter, the father-of-four admits to being ‘an addict for roughly forty years’.

‘I lived a life of pretense in a kind of dream, alternating between the lows of apathy and hopelessness and the highs of material success,’ he wrote. ‘I have quit and relapsed countless times.’

The therapist revealed that his drinking and drug-taking led his second wife initially to banish him to a separate quarter of the family home in Allen, Texas, and finally to divorce and kick him out the house when Patrick was 12-years-old.

‘In the last quarter of 2011, after many months of living alone upstairs my spouse of eighteen years knocked on the door and handed me divorce papers,’ Crusius Sr wrote.

‘Every time I thought of living apart from my three children I would break down into total misery. I wondered why the world was so unfair. What events could justify separation of a father from his children?’

The therapist detailed how he was a veteran user of hallucinogens by age 16, and progressed to benzodiazepines, anti-depressants - including Vicodin - and prescription drugs commonly prescribed for people with ADHD.

Continued:

‘I was always the one daring everyone else to go over the top in the partying category by taking the extreme amounts of whatever we had, whether Quaaludes, alcohol, magic mushrooms, or something else,’ he wrote.

Even as a father of young children and a practicing therapist counselling patients on their addiction problems, Crusius Sr admitted he continued to abuse drugs himself.

The breakdown of his marriage had repercussions for his twin young children, who in one incident were left home alone at Christmas aged 13 when his wife left for Oklahoma.

Crusius Sr wrote that on December 23 he was driving to work to give a patient a mental health assessment when he got a call from his teenage daughter Emily, multiple murderer Patrick’s twin sister, telling him the news.

‘It was my daughter wanting to know when I would be home because she needed a ride to a friend’s house.

‘I asked, “Where’s your mom? Can she take you?” An uncomfortable silence filled the air and finally she replied. “She left this morning for Oklahoma.”

Crusius Sr wrote that on December 23 he was driving to work to give a patient a mental health assessment when he got a call from his teenage daughter Emily, multiple murderer Patrick’s twin sister, telling him the news.

‘It was my daughter wanting to know when I would be home because she needed a ride to a friend’s house.

‘I asked, “Where’s your mom? Can she take you?” An uncomfortable silence filled the air and finally she replied. “She left this morning for Oklahoma.”

‘“What?” I said, feeling quite surprised. She had not told me of any trip or advised me that she was leaving.

‘What was shocking on the surface was to realize that my spouse had taken off without leaving an adult in charge.’

The father reacted bizarrely to the news, immediately pulling into a ‘major warehouse store’ and attempting to steal a computer hard drive.

He was apprehended by security guards and spent several days in county jail, leaving his three children to fend for themselves on Christmas Day.

When he eventually returned home, Crusius Sr wrote how his eldest son Blake was shocked at his appearance.

‘My seventeen year old son stared at me in disbelief. I sheepishly went up the stairs in a cloud of shame. My behavior of the last few years had placed him in a state of fear and uncertainty. He was the oldest and had taken on responsibility by default as the man of the house,’ the father wrote.

The majority of the father’s memoir is a rambling account of his various hallucinations and ‘visions’ while meditating with other spiritualists and ‘energy healers’.

In one bizarre session, he recounts speaking with Jesus.
‘Christ greeted me with a smile. He pulled his robe aside again with his right hand to reveal the flaming heart of love and compassion. He addressed me thus: “Bryan, you have chosen the Path of the Heart,”’ the licensed therapist wrote.

On Sunday, the alleged El Paso Walmart shooter’s grandfather got into an altercation with an FBI agent who showed up at his home, where Patrick Crusius lived for at least two years.

Larry Brown, 77, shouted ‘get the hell out of here’ at an FBI agent who approached his Allen, Texas home on Sunday morning.

The grandfather also refused to speak to media.
A neighbor told DailyMail.com the grandfather and his wife Cynthia were a ‘retired, nice older couple, really nice people’, but that he only saw the 21-year-old ‘in passing’.

‘We only saw him walking the dogs,’ said the neighbor. ‘The kids would say hello, and he’d say hello back.

‘Three weeks ago I saw him and a couple of friends out flying a drone. They just looked normal. The whole thing is very strange.

‘We’ve seen him off and on the past couple of years.’
The neighbor said local and federal law enforcement and media descended on the quiet suburban street Saturday morning shortly after the shooting in El Paso.

‘We walked out into the yard and immediately we were swarmed with cameras,’ he said. ‘Our neighbors front yard was full of people, then the police came. The FBI came and then local police shut the whole area down.

‘We heard helicopters all night. I had to cross through two layers of security to go to the gym.’
Residents of the former Crusius family home, where the alleged shooter lived with his twin sister, older brother and parents before they divorced, said they bought the house from the family about 18 months ago, but had no personal contact with them. Property records show the house was sold in March 2018 for $385,000.

Absofookinlutely (I think you meant dividing, but diving works just as well :)), and I'm convinced they do it primarily for self amusement (aka - they get off on pushing buttons and watching the sheep go apeshiit).

There should be a law that prohibits naming such killers
They don't deserve the fame and that's one of their driving goals.

they should be anonimized to the greatest extent.

Just call them "dipsj1t 1", "dipsj1t 2"

just increment the number between shooting incidents.
make them forgetabble.

Bold mine^ Nailed it. - Jim is actually part of the problem here.

I expect that Jim is thinking that people will see him as a 'good guy' if he dumps this on Trump.
It's like there's a competition to see who can think the worst about Trump. ...who can despise him (and the deplorables) the most. --so high-brow, doncha know....

How Jim sees it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564951082.jpg

Diving... dividing... or both..

That's what I get for typing while talking to someone on the phone!

The reason for the shootings is not political, but if you don't know for sure its a great scapegoat, it might be a bit of mental illness. However, the big change in society is the heart of man. Men are becoming more self centered, and I'll say it though most in here will disagree, the wickedness of the heart is the cause of this. How many times do you have a thought that passes through your mind, but you dare not act on it?? In honesty we all have that but why don't we act on it?? The question to be asked is "why doesn't this happen more often?" What keeps this sort of wickedness at bay?

Seems he is kind of an optimistic white trash mass murderer. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564952325.jpg

Really?? I can honestly say the thought of murdering a store full of defenseless Mexicans has never crossed my mind.

The reality is that we probably already have the technology available to find these guys before they strike. The powerful AI profiles at Google, Facebook, or Amazon could be tuned to identify and rank anyone as a possible active shooter. Something like this with an increasing score as more indicators are present:

Described by others as a loner > Defcon 1
Father was Absent/Abusive/Addict> Defcon 2
Made antisocial posts to FB or Instagram> Defcon 3
Has been treated for depression or mental illness> Defcon 4
Owns more than 10 guns including one or more with HRF potential (AR15/AK47 etc) > Watch list!

This is well within our current technology and Amazon probably already knows who they are. Lets find them and get them the help they need off the streets and away from their weapons arsenal.

I am 61 years old and have been using rifles and pistols for sport since I was a little boy . From being out in the woods to the local pistol range I have NEVER put a face to a target. The thought has NEVER occurred to me to shoot an individual other than self defense . So if we assume that is considered " normal " behavior what makes me different than these mass murderers ? That is a serious question .

I was not raised in a religious home so that's not it . I did have a mom and dad that were married and provided for me . I went to public schools , had a few friends but far from being popular . Started working when I was 15 .

Not patting myself on the back or bragging , just curious why I have stayed " normal " when others haven't ? I truly believe it's because I don't suffer from mental health issues . Maybe I am a dim bulb but I truly feel that mental illness is a major contributor in these mass shootings . It is not the only reason but is a contributor .

His own post illustrates that what he accuses others of he is guilty himself.

His post tries to divide the country around whether you are on the side that hates Trump.

Curious, how did you describe the Black mass murderer from hours before? Black trash? Just curious.

This is good ^

With the whole "Future Crime" detection just around the corner a watch-list is about the best balance that we can hope for.

Average age of marriage has gone from teenager to approaching thirty.

What I had originally written I had to delete after writing that sentence.

At first I didn't think it was part the problem, now maybe it is.

The motivation to form relationships and carve out a place in the world is perhaps lacking. Perhaps it relates.

I do want to keep things in perspective that since the 90's violent crime has been going down. There are other problems on the rise that are more important.

When asking that question to most here it is because we know right from wrong and were disciplined for bad behavior in our youth.

In our recent culture children were not discipled, could do no wrong, coddled, etc. If a child did wrong they were not disciplined. Punishment for bad behavior in some form. If a child acts out in a restaurant they do not get removed, spanked, yelled at, nothing. I would be yelled at, smacked and sent to my room all for one incident. I quickly learned don't do that again. In sports everyone is a winner and equal and receives a trophy, etc. So they don't know right from wrong and that everyone isn't equal in abilities, etc.

The cliff notes version. My feelings are hurt I'll go shoot up the local _ _ _ _ _ _ _ to get attention and I will feel better.

In other cultures you are taught from a young age go harm and kill those you don't like, disagree with, are of a different religion or wear the wrong color.