San Francisco International Airport (SFO) bans sale of plastic water bottles

[island911]

Originally Posted by 911boost

This appears to be one result....

Oh NOOooo.... a PLASTIC top!

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by island911

How's that?

You just don't like my point?

Because bottled water is not as important as inoculations and medicine?

Clean water is pretty g'damn important. Especially in 3rd world countries.

What you ninnies are doing is pointing at one potential small downside and saying LOOK - SO TERRIBLY HARMFUL ... as if that does one bit of good.

Plastics are awesome. The device you are using now has all sorts of plastic. And potential e-waste. When countries start throwing heavy metal batteries into rivers do we ban cell phones and electric cars?

Seriously, I'll say it again, If you can not separate out the idea of consumer goods utility and waste management I don't know what to say. Maybe that you're stupid?

It might be that I work in a place that uses thousands of syringes and needles each day. And yet, that waste is dwarfed by the amount of plastic waste in bottle form alone. Your drawing plastic syringes and needles into this discussion is obtuse...just like 99% of the crap you roll out here. Being your routine doesn't make any less insulting to people trying to contribute or learn here.

[island911]

BTW, here is my pick for reusable water bottles.

https://www.foodbev.com/news/fiji-water-releases-flip-top-bottle-to-attract-health-conscious-consumers/

Super light weight, cap stays attached, clear plastic allows UV to pass and inhibit growth of scum.

[island911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

It might be that I work in a place that uses thousands of syringes and needles each day. And yet, that waste is dwarfed by the amount of plastic waste in bottle form alone. Your drawing plastic syringes and needles into this discussion is obtuse...just like 99% of the crap you roll out here. Being your routine doesn't make any less insulting to people trying to contribute or learn here.

That's not an argument. You're simply missing the point for an opportunity to be an ass.

Bottled water has huge utility. Tell me why I'm wrong. -go.

[island911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

It might be that I work in a place that uses thousands of syringes and needles each day. ...

And that waste is highly managed. It's not thrown in to the local river.

Originally Posted by pavulon

.. And yet, that waste is dwarfed by the amount of plastic waste in bottle form alone. ..

dwarfed may be a bit much. Medical waste is huge, but again, it is highly managed. Out of sight, out of mind. Seattle streets, not so much.

Originally Posted by pavulon

.. Your drawing plastic syringes and needles into this discussion is obtuse....

Is it? Especially when the point is to highlight the utility of disposable plastics.

Originally Posted by pavulon

.. ...just like 99% of the crap you roll out here. Being your routine doesn't make any less insulting to people trying to contribute or learn here.

But at least you got to be an emotional ass, of the hole kind.

[group911@aol.co]

You mean the programs in the schools where them "scientists" that we don't want to believe once we educate them went? You know, why would we try solve a problem a third of the country refuses to acknowledge exists?
The bottom line is we need both approaches. Find ways to deal with the essential waste and maybe stoop to the level of not wasting so much.

Originally Posted by john70t

It's a technology problem which has been waiting to be solved for decades.

Where are the college programs dedicated to the subject?

Recycle once by mixing with other materials, then incinerate it using plasma and capture the byproduct simple gasses for more production.

[island911]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

You mean the programs in the schools where them "scientists" that we don't want to believe once we educate them went?...

English words, but arrangement... ?

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by john70t

It's a technology problem which has been waiting to be solved for decades.

Where are the college programs dedicated to the subject?

Recycle once by mixing with other materials, then incinerate it using plasma and capture the byproduct simple gasses for more production.

In Materials Science grad school late in the last century I recall a class centered on metal and glass recycling. IIRC the key takeaways were: feed material control is key (brown glass ruins everything) and if you could make money at it someone probably already is (lead is supposedly the most recycled by %age).

I wonder if there's a plastics-centric version for the ChemE/PetE crowd? That'd be pretty interesting!

[island911]

PET is the only FDA approved recyclable food-grade plastic.

And I'll post this here (again)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PET_bottle_recycling#Global_statistics
--interestingly India is the top recycler of PET, at 90%

[KFC911]

All I know is Sammy suggested I invest in PLASTICS a few weeks back. Therefore...I am against them....it just seems right....more or less...YMMV

[john70t]

Suppose some puts a (clean) net-positive-electricity plasma generator into a semi.
They drive it over to the beaches in India.
They put up a sign "$1 per ton" or whatever.
The homeless go to work. There is no shortage of them.
Those beaches will be clean in a month flat.

Tourists start using them again.
Income starts happening.
Fish start returning.

National/community pride and all that begins to happen.
The government decides it's worth keeping them around or building their own.
Everybody wins.

[Ziggythecat]

Is using cardboard cartons, as are used for milk, too obvious a solution ?

[island911]

Originally Posted by Ziggythecat

Is using cardboard cartons, as are used for milk, too obvious a solution ?

It's a more expensive solution, but at least the materials are not recyclable.

BTW, did you know that wax --as in waxed cardboard carton-- is a plastic?

Now what?

Is the drink box thingy still more green? Paper and plastic fused together...


Hey Pavulon, did you learn anything today?

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by island911

It's a more expensive solution, but at least the materials are not recyclable.

BTW, did you know that wax --as in waxed cardboard carton-- is a plastic?

Now what?

Is the drink box thingy still more green? Paper and plastic fused together...


Hey Pavulon, did you learn anything today?

Only that you’re an idiot...wait...no, nothing.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by dad911

That beach is in India. I'm sure the san-fran ban is going to make a big dent....



Ah but for the facts:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/

Why is it what when some people throw something away, they think it goes into the ether, never to be seen again?
Doesn't matter where the fk the beach is. That crap washes up on beaches everywhere.

[island911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

Only that you’re an idiot...wait...no, nothing.

uh huh...

hey remember when you sad this?

Originally Posted by pavulon

.. ...just like 99% of the crap you roll out here. Being your routine doesn't make any less insulting to people trying to contribute or learn here.

project much?

yeah ya do.

Nothing to offer, just insult.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Yo Island, I down a 40-pack of 17oz bottle waters, per week, at work during the hellish months here in North TexASS (I shiit you not), so maybe I have my own floating island (ha ha ha) of those things?!?!

[island911]

I believe it. But don't you know, some guy in his cubical regularly refills his Mason jar at the water-cooler . . so that's what everyone should do. :-/

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by island911

uh huh...

hey remember when you sad this?

project much?

yeah ya do.

Nothing to offer, just insult.

Your posts are the discarded plastic bottles of PPOT. It was sooo much better when you stayed in the BARF recycler. Seriously.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by island911

I believe it. But don't you know, some guy in his cubical regularly refills his Mason jar at the water-cooler . . so that's what everyone should do. :-/

My poopie is smarter than you...and more resourceful too...

Do you know anything about dawgs....or how to train them?

If this is over yer head....cryptic....ask Fido...or Fifi

It's a CBS day....yippee!