Active shooter training

[fastfredracing]

Had to pick up a roll of carpet from Lowes this morning . Bought and paid for last nite, all I had to do was roll in first thing, and put it in my truck . Or, so I thought . 45 minutes later ....
There was no one in the carpet department who knew where my roll of carpet was, and no one who could cut me a new piece .
Half the store was participating in " active shooter training".
I guess it is the world we live in .
I have to be honest, I think about it in nearly every place I go now. I sort of have a plan as to what I would do, where I would run, where to hide , what I would do if the kids were with me etc...
Kind of sucks when you really think about how much this affects our daily lives
Do you have any sort of plan in place ? What are you gonna do when you have a grocery cart full of your weekly take, and you hear the distinct pop pop pop. ?

[expatriot98]

Is there such thing as a passive shooter?

Just wondering.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by expatriot98

Is there such thing as a passive shooter?

Just wondering.

Someone who's written his manifesto, stocked up on guns and ammo, but hasn't yet summoned up what it takes to start popping off rounds in a public place?

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by fastfredracing

Had to pick up a roll of carpet from Lowes this morning . Bought and paid for last nite, all I had to do was roll in first thing, and put it in my truck . Or, so I thought . 45 minutes later ....
There was no one in the carpet department who knew where my roll of carpet was, and no one who could cut me a new piece .
Half the store was participating in " active shooter training".
I guess it is the world we live in .
I have to be honest, I think about it in nearly every place I go now. I sort of have a plan as to what I would do, where I would run, where to hide , what I would do if the kids were with me etc...
Kind of sucks when you really think about how much this affects our daily lives
Do you have any sort of plan in place ? What are you gonna do when you have a grocery cart full of your weekly take, and you hear the distinct pop pop pop. ?

Different countries, different mentalities I know.....but that's fcucked dude. Fcuk living like that. My biggest concern at the shops is, "is the car gunna have a scratch when I get back". Couldn't imagine walking around thinking the worst may happen any minute. Sorry for you bloke. Must suck for the kids.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

Had to do it earlier this year, and have been through it a few times prior. Couple of swat team members come and teach. Was interesting, but all I could think about was kids in elementary and middle schools going through the same thing and what would be filling their heads.

My dad went through it with Nuclear strike preparation in school as a regular thing.

Taught the world could end at any moment if the Russians sent the missiles flying.

Fred, in response to your question, it is something I think about in crowded places.

I do look at my escape routes, cover, concealment. I also avoid giant concerts and the like even if I like the music. No cover, no concealment, no realistic exit.

It do not see it as a negative, it is little different than flying an airplane and watching out as you fly for potential emergency landing patches on the terrain around you.

Or little different from checking the oil in your car, or the tire pressure of your tires.

[Eric 951]

A good friend of mine has a consulting business that does this for businesses, schools, theatres, etc. sets up an emergency action plan and performs training for the employees. He has been at it for 10 years.

[Sooner or later]

Least of my worries.

[Rick Lee]

I was looking for exit signs, cops and potential bad guys everywhere I went, long before mass shootings became a thing. I think the best way to avoid these incidents is to avoid crowded places and never stare at your phone in public. Pay attention to your surroundings. Those are things I do every second I'm outside my house, and I just naturally hate crowds anyway.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I was looking for exit signs, cops and potential bad guys everywhere I went, long before mass shootings became a thing. I think the best way to avoid these incidents is to avoid crowded places and never stare at your phone in public. Pay attention to your surroundings. Those are things I do every second I'm outside my house, and I just naturally hate crowds anyway.

Damn

[Baz]

I don't think about it at all.

That's how I roll, I guess.....

[cabmandone]

I look at things a bit more realistically. I'm more likely to be hurt or killed in a car accident travelling to a place like Lowes or Walmart than I am when I'm actually in the store. I spend more time watching my mirrors and oncoming traffic than I do worrying about someone carrying out a shooting at my destination. I guess I just play the odds. I'm probably more like Rick in that I've never enjoyed being in crowded places. Not because I'm afraid of what someone might do, but rather it's just too noisy and I don't enjoy it.

[Baz]

[Rick Lee]

I went to see a buddy's band play at an outdoor mall last night. During a break Mrs. Lee and I walked around a bit. In the several hundred people we walked past, I don't think a single one of them was not staring at their phone, unless their hands were occupied by a cup of ice cream. It was a pretty sad state of affairs, and it was the kind of environment an evildoer would relish. I could have done anything I wanted to any of them and no one else would have noticed who had done what until it was over. They were complete zombies, viewing the whole world through their phone screens. Even groups of 3-5 girls, sitting together, all staring at their own phones.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

My dad went through it with Nuclear strike preparation in school as a regular thing.

Taught the world could end at any moment if the Russians sent the missiles flying.

....

Post 9/11 people worried about being in tall office buildings.

A couple days ago there was a cougar prowling around my hood.. (not the MILFy kind) I wasn't going back into that park unless I was armed with a high powered laser pointer. kitty kitty

People seem to like to wallow in fear.

Everyone of us will face a situation that is insurmountable.

Shooters, planes, apex predators... as Sooner or later sez; Least of my worries.

[Mike80911]

My wife used to tease me that everywhere we went and sat down I had to have m back to the wall and a view of the entrance because of my training. Now she automatically saves that seat for me. I watch the videos and see the people running for their lives but I can't help but wonder how many are actually running towards the shooter? Sometimes cover and concealment are your best choice.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by cabmando

I look at things a bit more realistically. I'm more likely to be hurt or killed in a car accident travelling to a place like Lowes or Walmart than I am when I'm actually in the store. I spend more time watching my mirrors and oncoming traffic than I do worrying about someone carrying out a shooting at my destination. I guess I just play the odds. I'm probably more like Rick in that I've never enjoyed being in crowded places. Not because I'm afraid of what someone might do, but rather it's just too noisy and I don't enjoy it.

Yup, riding/driving yields far more fatalities in the U.S. than mass murder.

Just one is presented as a lot more scary than the other.

To me, dead is dead.

I to pay attention when driving. You could call it living in fear I suppose if driver safety is taught.

[Seahawk]

Franka Potente is all one ever needs to know about "it".

Originally Posted by Baz

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

My dad went through it with Nuclear strike preparation in school as a regular thing.

Taught the world could end at any moment if the Russians sent the missiles flying.

I remember that. Hiding under our desks when the siren went off. I felt pretty secure after someone had painted lines across the roads at various distances from the local Air Force base and indicated the level of damage at that distance. It was an anti-war protester, but it was a a comfort that our house was outside the range of serious destruction.

[dad911]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

Had to do it earlier this year, and have been through it a few times prior. Couple of swat team members come and teach. Was interesting, but all I could think about was kids in elementary and middle schools going through the same thing and what would be filling their heads.

We had fire drills and air raid drills. The cafeteria doubled as a bomb shelter.

For the air-raid drill, we were told to line up in the hallways, girls against the block wall, boys behind them to act as a shield. Couldn't do that today.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by dewolf

Different countries, different mentalities I know.....but that's fcucked dude. Fcuk living like that. My biggest concern at the shops is, "is the car gunna have a scratch when I get back". Couldn't imagine walking around thinking the worst may happen any minute. Sorry for you bloke. Must suck for the kids.

I’ve been in a lot of sketchy situations and never felt in danger. But I’m also grateful for the opportunity to carry a weapon and defend myself. Schit happens everywhere, history has borne that out. I’m just glad that I don’t have to cower in fear when it does.