Where does he say that?

Quoted after the race (italics are mine)

“Then in the middle of the corner Perez (Stroll’s teammate) took the apex. When I was behind him, I understeered quite a bit and then we made contact with Lance.”

Sounds like he lost some front downforce when he tucked in behind Perez and then slid a little wide.

"...we made contact..." Does he drive with a mouse in his pocket?

Never been all that big of a max fan, he seemed a bit too cocky and brash his first couple of years.
But I'm starting to believe he is the best driver on the grid and if he had a car equal to the mercedes, no one would cone close to him. He certainly is making his team mate look weak.


Flame away, I still have nomex I can put on if it gets too hot.

Hambone walked it back in a very carefully and professionally written reply apologizing for his shortcomings, with just a little poor poor me thrown in.

The stewards were not amused.

IOW, say it to my face Aho;)

No flame, I agree. I Max started out as Crashtappen, and was a real jerk on track. He did grow up as a driver and I think he may be the best driver on track. Hamilton seems to get more immature every race. No one can really say Lewis is not a great driver, but he simply has a car a full second faster than the rest of the pack except his teammate. He has simply outperformed Bottas.

Lewis will have virtually every record of consequence in short order. Unless Max can get a car the equal of the Mercedes or the Red Bull in Vettle's heyday, or Ferrari in Micheal Shumacher's day he has no chance.

FIA race director Michael Masi also insisted there was no bias from he or his team.

“We have the stewards as an independent judiciary to adjudicate. There was an infringement and it doesn’t matter if it was Lewis Hamilton or any other one of the 19 drivers,” said Masi.

“From my perspective, it’s very simple that if Lewis wants to raise something, as I have said to him before, and said to all the drivers numerous times, the door is always open and I’m more than happy to discuss anything.”


I other words... Hammy has complained or inferred a complaint to Masi before but was being passive aggressive about it. Masi is basically telling him to man up and make a formal complaint or piss off.

The Sky Sports video interview I saw had a strong inference of racial undertones. Again, passive aggressive. Either say it or STFU.

Its a shame really since he is a great driver that will as Glen says, have all the records when the dust settles.

Did anyone else notice there were 30,000 fans in attendance at the Russian GP? At least that was the reported number. The stands looked fairly full.

I'm curious how that came to be and whether it will continue in other venues.

Thanks, I had not seen that.

I just do not think Leclerc went out of his way to punt Stroll.

They might as well get it over with, this record breaking and all. In the case of Schumacher, he might very well have had an advantage, and an unfair one at that — Ferrari cheating. I don't want to be put on record for having said that. When it comes to Vettle's 4 in a row, the stars were in alignment once again. And now Mercedes has the car and the driver, so much so that records look to be beaten.

This may be the last of that. If rules changes make it impossible for a team to dominate such as many have in their day, then the chances of a car/driver advantage is unlikely in the future.

Russia has had much fewer Covid-19 deaths per capita than the rest of the world so they're OK'd to not socially distance.

Honda just announced their out of F1 at the end of next season!

Now who do I root for? Mic Schumacher?

So they finally get their **** together with Red Bull and then they quit.

Honda has different goals than most, when they enter F1. Racing of any kind for them is an exercise in developing their people. They've been in and out for decades.

Honda...

This is turning into a one, possibly two manufacturer series (assuming the red cars can get it together again). Three if you consider Renault. I really believe F1 is in dire straits if things don't change. The Merc dominance is certainly a feat to behold but without some competition it may really hurt the sport and with the closest competitor leaving there doesn't appear to be any competition in the future.

It'll have to morph into another spec class in order to survive.

they effed up with all that stupid hybrid battery crap.
Shoulda stayed with v10s or at least 3 liter v8s without all the complicated stuff. They are pricing themselves out of the market so to speak.

Haha this is awesome... I've disliked Marko/Horner since they poo-pooed renault so badly after winning several championships with their engine, now they may have to come back to them.... Because like hell mercedes will give them an engine, and Ferrari's is worse than Renault's right now with the clever cheats removed ! Maybe they'll do the classic "go to cosworth" or build their own, they considered it for a minute.. Maybe Mr Mateschitz will take his marbles and leave ? I bet Verstappen is pissed off he signed a long term deal.

Really strange oh honda though, they finally are coming good, and turn tail ? I agree with Sammy 100% on keeping it simple, but the original idea was manufacturers wanted that electric crap for relevance to regular car sales. Guess it's too expensive now, maybe simplify it with a brake regen - passing boost only, use that for passing instead of DRS, simplify the motors, back to V10-12s for noise... win win ?

Red Bull just need to buy one of those new Aston Martin engines.

Maybe a couple of them.

Maybe this is an opportunity for Porsche or Tag Heuer to reenter the fray. ;)

Sad day for Honda, F1 and world motorsport but the world is changing so companies like Honda have to adapt or they die :(

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This quote is going on one of my man cave walls as it means everything to me and what I'm about

Mercedes builds Aston Martin's engines. SmileWavy

Yes, I know that. I happen to think engine branding in F1 is fairly stupid, which is why I made that post. I also don’t particularly like many of the modern team names. I much preferred the era when the teams were named after the bloke at the top.

Tonight’s IndyCar race more fun than all of F1 this year

GP today website is reporting VW has contacted Red Bull to discuss being an engine supplier with the Porsche brand . Interesting if it pans out as VW has shown interest in F1 for a while . Expensive arena to jump into , especially considering VW's recent emission scandals/fines .

But maybe VW sees this as a chance of redemption in the pinnacle of racing . Will be interesting to see if this pans out and if it is a success .

The Indy race last night went green the whole way I think. It had plenty of wheel to wheel passing.

It did go full green. Not uncommon for Indycar.

So Honda is leaving F1, so I guess RedBull will get a Renault engine again ?!

That could happen but that's not the only option . There is Mercedes and Ferrari . There may be an option to buy out the Honda F1 engine division and brand as something else . There may be an option for another engine supplier to jump into the arena like VW/Porsche .

I am sure the phone calls have started and there will be a lot of rumors . RB has a little bit of time to make it's next move but I am sure they want to have a solution in place as soon as possible .

Mercedes will support 4 teams, so they will supposedly be maxed out. Ferrari has a dog of a motor. Renault only supplies one other team, and that will change next year to just the factory squad. And there is some clause in the rules that states the engine manufacturer with the least number of teams to support must make their engines available to a team in need.

Renault is RB's only option

The big questions are, how do they hang onto Max and what do they do for an engine after 2026

I would be surprised if Red Bull were even still in the sport after 2026.

Red Bull also has the problem of wanting works engine supplier status. The last time with Renault, they whined about having to compromise with the factory team. That's one reason they were so happy to be back to works status with Honda. At least Renault has a half-decent motor this time. But if RBR wasn't happy that first time around, they won't be happy with having customer status again.

I could see Red Bull buying Honda's engine operations. That would make a heck of a lot of sense.

Did I hear correctly that Liberty Media bought a controlling interest in IndyCar?

Also, I would like to see three-car teams and/or customer teams back in F1. I'd like to see 30 cars to show up to every race and 24 qualify. I'd like to see last-year's Red Bull running a Mercedes engine and stuff like that.

I can't imagine the groveling Red Bull would have to do to get back in Renaults' good graces, after the **** they gave one another.

liberty bought a stake in an Indy car team, not the series.

They considered buying Indycar after Penske ought it but the price was too high.

Renault will have to supply Red Bull with engines if asked, and they've said that they'd honor that, but Red Bull hasn't asked.

Going to take some huge balls to approach Renault, after the shellacking they gave them. Glad that's not my job.

I hear you and I like watching indycar. But... I've seen both live, and it just doesn't feel that special at least on a road course (I iamgine Indy must be something to behold), feels like SCCA+... At Sears point I saw an entire indy race w.e and not long after a demo from a year old mercedes F1 car (driven by Guttierez if I recall). The F1 car (acceleration, braking, even noise) was more alien and impressive than the entire field of Indycars... It looks and drives like an exotic animal - indycars looked like a corolla by comparison, side by side... But yeah I enjoy it on TV, good racing except for the weird yellow rules / pit closures...
On both sides I miss n.a. engines... Turbos are big mistake for a spectator sport !

Honda feels different about IndyCar, dropped F1 in favor of Indycar

I’ve not seen either in person. Been watching both since the early 90s and hope to see both in person soon. The v10 and 12s .... I wish I could have heard them.

Looks like FP1 session was cancelled due to weather ☹️ , too bad for the F2 young guns that were to practice .