Drove a Tesla and I'm a bit sad.

[Sooner or later]

I agree that China is a huge problem. And will continue to be moving forward.

The US is trying to take full advantage of it's NG glut and is building multiple NG export facilities.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by widebody911

Coal is just dried oil.

AFAIK, Both are the end product of hydrocarbon-based plant material which piled up in mountains.
It did not break down due to lack of compatible bacteria.

Methane is just little critter farts eating everything.

https://www.quora.com/When-was-coal-invented
Coal was formed from the remains of vegetation that grew as long as 400 million years ago. Most of our coal was formed about 300 million years ago, when much of the earth was covered by steamy swamps.

https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Oil_formation
70% of oil deposits existing today were formed in the Mesozoic age (252 to 66 million years ago), 20% were formed in the Cenozoic age (65 million years ago), and only 10% were formed in the Paleozoic age...

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I agree that China is a huge problem. And will continue to be moving forward.

The US is trying to take full advantage of it's NG glut and is building multiple NG export facilities.

If anything, the slowdown over there can only help.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

Serious question. do you do all that with your LS1 powered 928S in your signature?

You've never owned a TDI. Around 500 miles per fill up (12 gallons of diesel) on a ALH... That's with a big turbo, and majority of the time WOT.... 40 mpg. I would get more if I turn down my IP. High 40's MPG is not unheard of. Especially with the standard.
My mk7 tdi would get 44-45 mpg religously.

My 928 does not have a LS1. try again. I avg mid/lower teens. Not bad for a 376 V8. To answer your question. I do not daily drive my 928.

[gordner]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

38% is not a majority.

It is a major part but not a majority.

It's a majority if the remainder is meted out in segments smaller than 38%.....

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by gordner

It's a majority if the remainder is meted out in segments smaller than 38%.....

Our education system at work.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by gordner

It's a majority if the remainder is meted out in segments smaller than 38%.....

Another member of the 27 is greater than 34 crowd.

[RWebb]

China isn't the only problem, so is India... and others

part of the problem in China is that the central govt. wants to reduce coal use, but many (not most!! maybe a majority or a plenary number...) want to maintain coal use ($$ and jobs)

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Another member of the 27 is greater than 34 crowd.

Al Gebra is the most feared of all Middle Eastern thugs

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

Guaranteed you've never driven one......funny, like it or not, some people still think rap music is just a fad as well....

And "sagging", as well.

[manbridge 74]

What about the International Energy Agency? Are they in league with big coal? They put out the above. I’m starting to think the subject is so political that the actual numbers are not easily known. I still hold to coal and it’s derivatives as the the main source of energy.

[manbridge 74]

Got to drive this today. It was pretty fun, but it used a good bit of Kw in a short test drive...

[manbridge 74]

Below from the Institute for Energy Research.....

Despite Large Investment in Renewable Energy, Coal Dominates Worldwide Generation

IER
4 months ago
Despite renewable energy investment more than tripling globally during the current decade compared to the last 10-year period, most of the power delivered to the world’s electric grids during the recent decade was from coal. In fact, coal is still the world’s largest source of electricity, providing 38% of world electrical generation in 2018, about the same as 1997.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I understand your point and would agree except he doubled down on being wrong. You know I live in my own meritocracy and have no tolerance for stupid people. They are ruining our country.

The clementines are fantastic with honey drizzled on them, thanks again!

Never occurred to me to try and make them sweeter.

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

Below from the Institute for Energy Research.....

Despite Large Investment in Renewable Energy, Coal Dominates Worldwide Generation

IER
4 months ago
Despite renewable energy investment more than tripling globally during the current decade compared to the last 10-year period, most of the power delivered to the world’s electric grids during the recent decade was from coal. In fact, coal is still the world’s largest source of electricity, providing 38% of world electrical generation in 2018, about the same as 1997.

Unless of course, he is not wrong.

More important than not having nice things is not having nice people. It is like the great philosopher, Patrick Swayze, said in the classic motion picture, "Roadhouse"

Be nice.

Never forget, mean people suck.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

Yes, demand projections are a possibility. Today, as in right now, coal burning in power plants supplies the majority of the worlds power.

This is where you went wrong. Coal does not supply the majority (over 50%) of the world's power. Coal does not supply the majority (over 50%) of generated electricity.

Yes, it is a major player just not the majority.

[manbridge 74]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Never occurred to me to try and make them sweeter.


Unless of course, he is not wrong.

More important than not having nice things is not having nice people. It is like the great philosopher, Patrick Swayze, said in the classic motion picture, "Roadhouse"

Be nice.

Never forget, mean people suck.

Thing is, I don’t care if he calls me stupid. To do so is a sign of weakness.

Again, it’s a highly charged political issue which is why you find sources saying two different things.

[manbridge 74]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

This is where you went wrong. Coal does not supply the majority (over 50%) of the world's power. Coal does not supply the majority (over 50%) of generated electricity.

Yes, it is a major player just not the majority.

So this outfit, Institute of Energy Research is really Big Coal? Okay...

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

So this outfit, Institute of Energy Research is really Big Coal? Okay...

That chart doesn't show coal being over 50%.. Closer to about 30%, probably less.

[Sooner or later]

This is the same data but showing % of total production for each source. There is also the actual data set so you can calculate the absolute for each if you wish.

Eyeballing the chart

Oil is about 35% of the total
Biofuels and waste at 10%
Nuke and renewable 5%
Natural gas at about 20%
Coal near 30%

[Sooner or later]

Don't confuse coal electrical generation at 38% (per your own post) with total power generation that includes oil where coal is nearer 25 to 30% (per your own chart).

Just a guess but I think the oil in total power is automotive related which isn't electricity generation though it is power generation.