I look at threads like this one and compare them to my camera thread. OT has many strata and the differences among them are striking. Scott, you, Dean and many others are so incredibly helpful and thoughtful on my thread, the best of what OT has to offer. Then there are *******s who think nothing of f'ing up a thread on a subject that doesn't impact them whatsoever spoiling it for the original poster and others who enjoy the subject.

Here's a thought, have some respect for others. Show some class. Manners, they are important.

I hope I've made myself clear.SmileWavy

Jesus, someone’s wound a little too tight this morning.

No I'm just disappointed with people most of the time. Examples abundant on this thread.

You need to learn to see an issue from both sides. I’m simply explaining why people no longer like the Oscars and no longer watch it like they used to.

I am excellent at seeing an issue from both sides. This thread is not an appropriate vehicle to discuss both sides. Why do I even have to say that?:confused:

The only "sides" this thread should have is "I think 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' should have won best picture."

Again, I shouldn't have to say that.

Start a thread about the politicization of celebrity award shows. That would be an appropriate vehicle to discuss the topic.SmileWavy

And to think, I was responding to your rant, not the other way around...

Scoot!

Maybe it's because people have got a lot more options now. (Netfix etc)

Gold Jerry. Gold.

indeed
heck of a way to go through life

I know. Just post a thread saying how much fun you had driving an electric car. :D

Well....I suspect you would disagree but I think for most of the population, celebrity award shows and politicization have become mutually inclusive (by the celebrities' own doing).
One can't go anywhere nowadays without hearing someone's .02 on the current political landscape. The genie is out of the bottle. Now we have to hear it from our place of respite (movies), too?
Movies have traditionally been an escape device for the doldrums of everyday life, and their players a keeper and conduit to that experience. I grew up in the 80's so I had some taste of the Oscar magic growing up; elegant attire, larger than life actors, essentially a continuation of the movie experience. Hollywood! While there were political slights back then, it's the abundance of which its given today that makes many say enough already. Noise.

I mean, I really like Brad Pitt and enjoy his movies (I might have been the only one who enjoyed Ad Astra), but.....when hearing him speak candidly and off script, I get the feeling he doesn't even know who John Bolton is!

I get it. You (Hollywood) don't like 45 and he is the reason for all the evil in the world that suddenly manifested itself after November 2016, but are you really being sincere when you write on your dress the names of all the females "shut out" from the awards, or are you working on your personal brand? I think for many, it just comes across as insincere and spiteful. To paraphrase Gervais, just come up thank your deity and whomever and move along. Entertain us, don't lecture us.
Additionally, I really don't put a lot of stock in the value of the Oscar. Nice character that Cliff Booth, but best supporting actor? Julia Roberts best actress for Brokovich? Don't get me started on Manchester by the Sea.

All that aside, I'm at maximum speed on the hamster wheel at this point of my life with young family and business commitments. The television time I get with my better half is minimal, and best served not watching any award shows.


Best,

It's been a phenomenal life so far. Never could I have imagined it being so fun and interesting with amazing adventures. With so many more to come.



LOL! :D

Agree. It seems it is basically a sport to make it very clear you'd never watch the Oscars or Golden Globes and then crap all over them. There were actually very few political comments that I saw. Joaquin Phoenix is just a weird dude so his speech was a rambling WTF moment :-) My wife loves these shows and I enjoyed it as well. We are making our way through the nominated films. We don't go to the movies much and tend to watch them at home which means we are always behind.

This performance may have been the highlight of the evening for me. Some people just have an unfair amount of talent.

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No, I agree with you completely. People just need say enough in the right context and be respectful of others around them. Steve created a thread to talk about the Oscars, films nominated, won, actors, etc. It shows a distinct lack of respect, class and manners to criticize Hollywood on his thread. Don't like Hollywood? Start a thread on it. Write to the Oscars. Picket the event with a "No Politics" sign. Vote with your wallet and don't go to the movies. I always encourage dissent. Our country was founded on protest and it's the highest level of patriotism other than voluntarily enlisting at war time.

But make your protest mean something. And don't take away from the happiness of others while doing so. Don't like be lectured to? OK, fix that. Don't F up someone else's enjoyment because you are bitter.

On another note, how in the world could you have liked Ad Astra? :D

Just keep singing your song Shaun. The Hollywood elite will continue to fail to get the message and the once-loyal 40 million viewers and all of their advertising dollars will continue to dwindle to 20M, 10M, 5M... Zero. It is a self-correcting process.

LOL, I get that a lot, trust me. Well, to start off I found it a visual and sonic treat. I loved the sparseness of dialog and vastness of the cinematography; when he got to Neptune it made me feel "wow, he is a lonnnng way from home". I never felt that when viewing other movies of the genre.
Additionally....I connected with his longing for his dad (our relationship was not like the one portrayed in the film, we couldn't have been more close). I lost mine unexpectedly two years ago last week; when I now encounter scenes expressing loss, missed opportunity, and a future without that loved one....let's just say it gets awful dusty around these parts. Like now for example.

I also liked Ad Astra and Brian Cox (the scientist) enjoyed it.

Crazy space monkeys!

I'm sorry to hear about your dad. Same with my grandfather.

I agree with you on the score and the cinematography. I wanted more story though. it didn't feel deep enough to me.

I honestly could not care less what Hollywood elites say and do. I only care that they keep making movies like Jojo Rabbit, Once Upon a Time, Shape of Water, Joker, Alita, Little Women, etc.

When I take in art, I don't care about the artist's politics. And I don't understand why people do. Seems small to me. Limiting.