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The most important groups are

1. Medical Professionals
2. People likely to have severe complications from COVID

The reasons should be obvious, but...We are trying to prevent a health crisus with sick professionals and the ICUs overfilled.

I understand putting police and firefighters into catagory #1. But I see that every minor official feels they should be in group 1.

The next people that should be vaccinated are "essential workers" and front line people. Teachers, cashiers (exposure) ; truckers and trasportation professionals, power generation and other infracstructurer workers.

Then it should be everyone.

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Thanks guys. I wouldn't suggest changing the doses, etc. and certainly everyone should get the 2nd one. It's still nice to know that "some" immunity is there after the first.
Don't "count" on it. In the Moderna study, most (if not all) of the people who had the actual vaccine who then became infected, were between doses 1 and 2. The "Good News" was those that did contract COVID had mild symptoms.

Pfizer, second done after 3 weeks and full immune respone by week 4
Moderna, second dose after 4 weeks and full immune response by week 6.
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I agree with the priorities, but if they aren't consuming the available supply, opening it up. The former should still recieve priority though. Shots in the arms on a widespread basis is the goal.... we'll get there. "Devil is in the details" seem to be getting resolved quickly here.

I just saw where 50% of our nursing home workers were refusing them though, but I think the residents' percentage is much higher.

People are stoooopid

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Don't "count" on it. ....
Absolutely.... thanks!
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Thanks guys. I wouldn't suggest changing the doses, etc. and certainly everyone should get the 2nd one. It's still nice to know that "some" immunity is there after the first.
The vast majority of people -without a vaccine- handle this virus with relative ease.

Of the people whom actually get this virus there is well over a 98% survival rate.

Yet, people talk about this virus like it's Ebola or some such. --They seem to enjoy spooking themselves and/or others.
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The vast majority of people -without a vaccine- handle this virus with relative ease.

Of the people whom actually get this virus there is well over a 98% survival rate.

Yet, people talk about this virus like it's Ebola or some such. --They seem to enjoy spooking themselves and/or others.
Why do you keep down playing this virus as if it's no be thing? The nation's healthcare systems and it's workers are being stressed like never before. Have you seen what is happening in California hospitals? We're coming up to 400,000 dead and I know you doubt the numbers. You think the families of the dead are just spooking themselves?
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The vast majority of people -without a vaccine- handle this virus with relative ease.

Of the people whom actually get this virus there is well over a 98% survival rate.

Yet, people talk about this virus like it's Ebola or some such. --They seem to enjoy spooking themselves and/or others.
It's not only a question of survival rate.
There are people who survive, but suffer a lot of symptoms even months after being discharged.

If nothing is done, and everybody pretends there's no need for any measures.. the impact would be much bigger.
The hospitals are already being pushed to the brink, and that is WITH measures taken to stop the spread.


I'm not worried bout myself getting the virus, but the main people i care about are 73 and 83. And my best friend who is my age but he had a kidney transplatn..
I can't afford to get the virus , because I don't want to infect them.
And IF i get it, I can't take care of the 83 year old with Alzheimer anymore.. She still lives alone, and she get's lonely if I don't visit her.

So yes, I'll get the vaccine as soon as I can.
Because i'm fed up with working at home since March last year.
I'm fed up having to read about people who keep breaking the rules and prolonging the entire ordeal.

Covid is real, but you know what's worse : how people have been dealing with it.
Self centered and stupid.
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Old 01-10-2021, 06:46 AM
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I received the first dose of Pfizer last Wed. Scheduled for second at the end of the month. NM seems to be doing a good job of getting people vaccinated quickly. I registered on the state DOH website in Dec and was notified a couple weeks later to book an appointment.
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Some observations about the process:

I signed up through the CDC VAMS website for an appointment which texted me reminders and information. I am curious when they start rolling out to the older population how they will handle people who don't have a cell phone capable of this or are not tech savvy enough to get an appointment set up through a website.

The day after the vaccine, I received a text to fill out a survey about side effects that ranged from minor to major and whether it affected my daily activities. I think this will make it so we have more information on the effect of these vaccines over any other. In a normal situation, if you have a reaction you may never call your doctor if it is minor, the doctor may never call the company who made it or the FDA to report, the company representative may never report it to corporate and corporate may never report it to the FDA
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^^^ I received the same regarding the appointment. They had a bold paragraph at the top for anyone that couldn't manage the online questions to call them.
How they would get this info to those without email...I don't know. Prob snail-mail.
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Are you guys frontline people?
I work in hospitals and imaging facilities all around the metro Phx area.
I maintain CT scanners and Nuclear Medicine systems.
There's an incredible amount of machinery and support equipment the front liners use in their daily occupations.
Who fixes/supports that equipment?
I'm within 10' of covid patients almost every day. And I'm certainly with 6' of the Technologists that scan those folks.

Quite frankly, I'm just the guy that fixes broken stuff. And by strict definition of the term, I'm technically not a HCP ( Healthcare Professional ). I've been curious how the state would rank me for getting it.

Turns out, I'm a front liner in their eyes, but not mine. ER personnel, EMS, Police and Fire Fighters are waaaaay ahead of me.
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Some observations about the process:

I signed up through the CDC VAMS website for an appointment which texted me reminders and information. I am curious when they start rolling out to the older population how they will handle people who don't have a cell phone capable of this or are not tech savvy enough to get an appointment set up through a website.

The day after the vaccine, I received a text to fill out a survey about side effects that ranged from minor to major and whether it affected my daily activities. I think this will make it so we have more information on the effect of these vaccines over any other. In a normal situation, if you have a reaction you may never call your doctor if it is minor, the doctor may never call the company who made it or the FDA to report, the company representative may never report it to corporate and corporate may never report it to the FDA
For a week after injection, I had a full daily log to fill out with multiple questions and detailing severity of symptoms. I still fill out a short form every week about changes in health and exposure.
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My wife got her 1st shot last week and then stayed at the site to vaccinate ~ 65 state troopers and other nurses. She wants to get to 1000 by the end of the month. It's all volunteer but she likes to feel she is doing her part. She no longer works in a hospital but some of the nurses who work for her have hospital jobs and have seen the results of the pandemic first hand. Lots of dead people and many others with long term illness. It's nothing to take lightly.

The CFO at Jeffries bank died of Covid 19 while my son was working there. 56 years old.
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My wife got her 1st shot last week and then stayed at the site to vaccinate ~ 65 state troopers and other nurses. She wants to get to 1000 by the end of the month. It's all volunteer but she likes to feel she is doing her part. She no longer works in a hospital but some of the nurses who work for her have hospital jobs and have seen the results of the pandemic first hand. Lots of dead people and many others with long term illness. It's nothing to take lightly.

The CFO at Jeffries bank died of Covid 19 while my son was working there. 56 years old.
Good for her! Tell her "Many, many thanks from Oklahoma!". Staffing can be a real bottleneck. It will only become more difficult when we are trying to give first vaccinations and the groups start coming up for their second.
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My wife got her 1st shot last week and then stayed at the site to vaccinate ~ 65 state troopers and other nurses. She wants to get to 1000 by the end of the month. It's all volunteer but she likes to feel she is doing her part. She no longer works in a hospital but some of the nurses who work for her have hospital jobs and have seen the results of the pandemic first hand. Lots of dead people and many others with long term illness. It's nothing to take lightly.

The CFO at Jeffries bank died of Covid 19 while my son was working there. 56 years old.
As a nursing student, I am required to do a certain number of clinical hours in a hospital to get my license. With Covid, we are having a harder time getting in hospitals. I wish they would let me vaccinate for a day. Win-Win. I get 8-12 hours of experience and they have help with staffing issues. But no one asks me.
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City of Houston ran a clinic at Minute Made park. Over 3000 doses given. The volunteers also received the vaccine.
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City of Houston ran a clinic at Minute Made park. Over 3000 doses given. The volunteers also received the vaccine.
My county, pop 120,000, gave out 1600 on Monday, and 1600 on Thursday. Sat was a half day at 600.
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That was a special. Most of the Hospitals and manydrug stores are also giving injections. COH is trying to get to the people who are not near a pharmacy or hospital. Some of the volunteers were driving vans to collect people.
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That was a special. Most of the Hospitals and manydrug stores are also giving injections. COH is trying to get to the people who are not near a pharmacy or hospital. Some of the volunteers were driving vans to collect people.
Texas is doing pretty well. California is terrible (if their reported numbers are correct)
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The most important groups are

1. Medical Professionals
2. People likely to have severe complications from COVID
Ohio is close to that.

The state's first phase of voluntary vaccinations includes: (Mid Dec)

-Health care workers and personnel involved with the care of COVID-19 patients
-Residents and staff members at nursing homes and assisted living facilities
-Patients and staff members at state psychiatric hospitals
-People with developmental disabilities or mental health disorders and staff members at residential facilities
-Residents and staff members at state veterans homes
-Emergency medical service workers


The second phase has not been rolled out yet from what I read but that's just based on Google searches for my county.

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/2020/12/21/canton-stark-health-departments-accept-registration-vaccination/3998039001/

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