Should people be forced to take the vaccine?

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

it is perfectly legal to require employees to be vaccinated and has been that was for some time. You must be consistent throughout the organization and have exceptions allowed based on religious or medical reasons.

Nothing new.

Provided it's in your contract for employment or an employee handbook. To make it a requirement out of the blue? Nah... grounds for a lawsuit.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Try getting a job at a Catholic school if you are an avowed Baptist. Or getting a job at a Baptist college if you are an avowed Muslim.

Not as difficult as you might think. At our Catholic school we have several non Catholic teachers. Hell, we have several openly gay teens in our Catholic school. Times... they are a changin.

[island911]

Should fat people be forced to take the lap-band surgery? Heart disease kills more than covid.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Provided it's in your contract for employment or an employee handbook. To make it a requirement out of the blue? Nah... grounds for a lawsuit.

Not everyone works under contract. Many work in at will states where you can be released for no reason.

The 69 hospital employees were fired with two month's notice of vaccination requirements.

"In September 2017 Duluth Minnesota based health system, Essentia Health informed all employees, volunteers, students, and vendors that they were to comply with the mandatory flu-shot policy. The hospital workers were given three options and a compliance date in November 2017:

Get the flu shot
Get an approved religious or medical exemption
Leave Essentia Health"

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Not everyone works under contract. Many work in at will states where you can be released for no reason.

The 69 hospital employees were fired with two month's notice of vaccination requirements.

"In September 2017 Duluth Minnesota based health system, Essentia Health informed all employees, volunteers, students, and vendors that they were to comply with the mandatory flu-shot policy. The hospital workers were given three options and a compliance date in November 2017:

Get the flu shot
Get an approved religious or medical exemption
Leave Essentia Health"

Has to be in a company handbook or something. Anything outside of that opens the company to lawsuits. I'd bet the hospital employees had a contract of some sort.

"mandatory flu shot policy" How much ya wanna bet that policy is in an employee handbook?

[WPOZZZ]

No one should be forced to take a vaccine. However, they should also be responsible for their own actions. If you don't want to take it, and it is a requirement of your employment, understand you can be let go.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Has to be in a company handbook or something. Anything outside of that opens the company to lawsuits. I'd bet the hospital employees had a contract of some sort.

"mandatory flu shot policy" How much ya wanna bet that policy is in an employee handbook?

Our lawyer wouldn't let us do or say anything that wasn't in the employee handbook. We revised the handbook constantly, and had a staff meeting to explain the modifications every time we changed a punctuation mark.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Has to be in a company handbook or something. Anything outside of that opens the company to lawsuits. I'd bet the hospital employees had a contract of some sort.

"mandatory flu shot policy" How much ya wanna bet that policy is in an employee handbook?

In a small business, like the restaurant, it is not that difficult. A policy change notification on the bulletin board and an employee meeting.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by island911

Should fat people be forced to take the lap-band surgery? Heart disease kills more than covid.

Heart disease is not contagious.

[island911]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Heart disease is not contagious.

It doesn't have to be to be the bigger threat.

[island911]

Forcing people --who don't have disease-- to take a medical procedure to prophylactically protect others is absurd.

Besides, all they have to do is wear a mask... maybe two.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by island911

It doesn't have to be to be the bigger threat.

Someone else's heart disease is not a threat to my health.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by island911

Forcing people --who don't have disease-- to take a medical procedure to prophylactically protect others is absurd.

Besides, all they have to do is wear a mask... maybe two.

The only thing they are being "forced" to do is make a decision. Vaccinate, get a waiver, or find another job.

A business owner may find it beneficial to have all employees vaccinated. Others may not. I wouldn't do it when the vaccine is under an EUA.

[island911]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Someone else's heart disease is not a threat to my health.

Someone else's lack of covid is not a threat to your health either, but you would like to force them. [to get vaccinated]
Why not get the vaccine yourself, rather than trying to make your fear someone else's problem?

[island911]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

The only thing they are being "forced" to do is make a decision. Vaccinate, get a waiver, or find another job.

A business owner may find it beneficial to have all employees vaccinated. Others may not. I wouldn't do it when the vaccine is under an EUA.

Yep, and like I asked, what about the business owner who may find it beneficial to have all FAT employees get a lap-band? Maybe he gets a better insurance rate without the fatties...

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by island911

Someone else's lack of covid is not a threat to you health either, but you would like to force them.

Why not get the vaccine yourself, rather than trying to make your fear someone else's problem?

Unless you are one of the millions that won't/shouldn't get the vaccine because they have had severe allergic reactions in the past.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Someone else's heart disease is not a threat to my health.

Unless they work near you and have a heart attack during operating machinery that could injure you. Heck, with that measurement, a obese person shouldn't be allowed to drive a car because they could have a heart attack and then run into pedestrians.

[island911]

Or a playground full of children at recess.

Why do you hate children so, Patrick?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by island911

Someone else's lack of covid is not a threat to you health either, but you would like to force them.

What the hell does that sentence mean?

[island911]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

What the hell does that sentence mean?

uh huh.. Someone else's lack of covid is not a threat to your health either, but you would like to force them. [to get vaccinated]