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At some point they might have been on hi shoulder, but not here.

Consider yourself priviliged komrade to have never realized even now the origin of the expression.

You sound bias.
How do you know that the car exhaust didn't kill him.....

Of course, like you...I am not an attorney, murder in the second degree seems to require significant "intent" to either murder or for "unintentional murder," no intent to murder but intent to commit another crime.

You are right. Not everyone believes that the police intended to kill Floyd, were in the process of committing a felony when Floyd died or were intending to inflict bodily harm to him. It is hard to find a motive for any of those...even through speculation...and certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt,

Pretty prescient since they started looting and rioting almost a year earlier...and of course...the January 6th protest achieved just the opposite. I guess because, unlike BLM, the amateur protesters didn't kill anyone or burn anything (or have Democrat Congressmen and Mayors shilling for them or DAs that refused to charge them). I guess equal protection under the law went out of favor along with the 1st and 2nd Amendments in Jan.

I fully support cops roughing up repeat offenders. But I suspect the right verdict was reached here.

I can only defer to the prosecution witnesses that saw many, many other photos (blown up) and videos from many angles and different cameras (closer) throughout the period that said that was not the case...even though they testified against Chauvin. Sometimes in a single photo, things are just not what they seem.

Actually I don't support cops who rough up anyone. It's not their job to administer justice.

I agree...but it is awfully hard to stop someone form resisting or escaping gently...if they really want to escape. Especially if they are larger, stronger, younger, faster, etc. Generally, they could care less if they hurt the officer...so t is pretty one-sided. We all thrill to the linebacker-like tackle of a shooter, but if he is badly hurt in the melee, then we want to suspend/jail the officer. In a world of split-second decisions, if one does not fall on the side of the policeman trying to uphold the law when their actions are not clearly indefensible, pretty soon...they cannot/will not. Being in law enforcement should not be a death sentence...or even an excuse for others to use you as a punching bag. There will be mistakes...but that is what they are. Mistakes.

Here are the others....

https://news.yahoo.com/chauvins-conviction-attention-now-shifts-045952480.html

Yep. More of those evil white supremist.

Should be another excuse to riot.

I will admit I haven't followed this case very much , just know what I have seen on the news and what I have read online . Having said that when the medical examiner determined cause of death was homicide it certainly made Chauvin's case quite difficult .

The jury was a cross section of society , they heard the evidence that was presented and came to a verdict . You may or may not agree with the verdict . But when there is video/audio evidence of a person stating they can't breath and they fear they will die .......... and then they die the defense has their work cut out for them . Maybe some good can come from this tragedy .

Homicide means different things in a medical science and a legal sense.

If Lloyd couldn’t breathe and the cause of that was the positional asphyxiation, then why was he complaining of it before he was even taken out of the cop car? Do you think maybe Floyd’s problem had more to do with Floyd and his choices in pharmacology, than his position?

Of course he said exactly the same thing the last time he was arrested for drugs in Minneapolis...and called for his girlfriend, "momma" too (not when he was arrested/jailed for the violent home invasion in Texas).

He was not a model citizen but didn't deserve to die in the street like he did and a jury agrees . That's why police are tasked with arrests and courts to determine the punishment . Officer Chauvin will have a lot of time to consider what happened but won't change what happened .

They directly caused at least one death, under the law all involved had a part in killing someone.

You could have ended it right there. It's spot on. I support our Police but what Chauvin did was simply wrong.

In my country our ideal is to give everyone a fair trial and appropriate punishment. No one should be given extra harsh punishment to make a political point.
Your country may be different but it would really suck if you were punished in an extra way to 'make a point'. I would want what I deserve and not what point the politicians and anarchists in the street want to make.

Isn't first degree murder supposed to be pre-meditated and deliberate?
Wasn't what he did wrong but more close to manslaughter?

Joe,
It wasn't a political point. He was directly responsible for the death of another person as a result of his actions. Nothing political about it. He was guilty as hell.