Vaccines are moving the needle...

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Having already had the ‘vid and gotten the Pfizer two shots, it’s a hard pass on the booster for me. I will take my chance of getting it again instead of guaranteeing I feel like crap with another shot.

That is what is great about choice.

"Technically" you've already had a booster. You had covid (natural antibodies) and then got the vaccine. You've had a booster.

[fastfredracing]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Having already had the ‘vid and gotten the Pfizer two shots, it’s a hard pass on the booster for me. I will take my chance of getting it again instead of guaranteeing I feel like crap with another shot.

That is what is great about choice.

How were your side effects ?

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by island911

I notice that none are talking about the need for a third jab. (and the implied short-comings of the vax)

just whistle on past....

Not really a "shortcoming" as the vaccine was designed to vaccinate against the original strain. If this is a shortcoming, it's also a shortcoming of natural immunity by infection. The good news is, the vaccine created for the original strain is offering some level of protection against all known strains. One member here mentions they had the virus twice which would imply that in this case natural immunity isn't as good because you got no real protection against reinfection or against the variants for that matter.

[fastfredracing]

We had it twice, but it was over a year apart ,

[island911]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Not really a "shortcoming" as the vaccine was designed to vaccinate against the original strain. If this is a shortcoming, it's also a shortcoming of natural immunity by infection. The good news is, the vaccine created for the original strain is offering some level of protection against all known strains. One member here mentions they had the virus twice which would imply that in this case natural immunity isn't as good because you got no real protection against reinfection or against the variants for that matter.

So then as long as someone tells you the virus has mutated you are good with yet another jab?

Makes no difference if the new strain is inert, you will go with another jab?

Do you go door to door asking people if they have accepted the jab as their lord and savior?

And do you wear a mask when doing so?

[9dreizig]

What happened to the "My Body My Coathanger" group, Oh that's right these are the same people who are willing to ruin someones life because they don't want to make a queer cake with two grooms on top.. So let's force an experimental vaccine that is questionable against the Delta variant ,, and who knows about the Lambda variant which is just around the corner.. I'll take a hard pass

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by island911

So then as long as someone tells you the virus has mutated you are good with yet another jab?

Makes no difference if the new strain is inert, you will go with another jab?

Do you go door to door asking people if they have accepted the jab as their lord and savior?

And do you wear a mask when doing so?

Since I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine... I don't need others to tell me. Remember Island, you read it right here on the internet so it must be true. But I know adding a meme would make it that much more believable for ya!

And why would they make a vaccine for an inert virus? That makes no sense even for you Island.

[911boost]

Fred, I had all of the same symptoms as I did when I had covid just condensed into a shorter timeframe and more intense.

For me it was insomnia, minor fever & chills, rash....

Good times.

[Rtrorkt]

For those of you with these strong opinions, could you post your medical license or state your position at a research institute that is working on viruses?

[cabmandone]

I wonder how long after the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines achieve full approval that they'll still be called "experimental"? Both will likely receive full approval in the next few months. Will they still be considered "experimental" even though they've gone through the same testing, are held to the same efficacy and safety standards as others?
I read a great article yesterday about one of the big things you hear from those who are against the vaccine. Many say it was rushed or hurried. The contributor said that "normally" when a drug or vaccine is in trials there is difficulty finding enough people exposed to whatever they are supposed to treat or protect against. In the case of covid, it wasn't hard finding people at risk of getting the virus since it spread easily and quickly. This made the trials easier to fill and faster to complete.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

For those of you with these strong opinions, could you post your medical license or state your position at a research institute that is working on viruses?

I just told you! I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine! You read it right here on the internet man! It has to be true.

[fastfredracing]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Fred, I had all of the same symptoms as I did when I had covid just condensed into a shorter timeframe and more intense.

For me it was insomnia, minor fever & chills, rash....

Good times.

Thanks for the reply. And, yeah, I don't want that . I was pretty sick for 3-4 days, then felt sluggish for about 2 weeks both times.
Came back 100% as far as I can tell . My wife , still cannot taste or smell after 4 months .
Im 10 pounds overweight, non smoker, no drugs, drinker, no health issues , pretty active , so I think I am right in the pocket .
Id be lying if I said that I was not scared when we came down sick , but now , I am glad to see that my body did exactly what it was supposed to . twice.
You have to wonder now, how many times can someone become infected .
We got Covid before the vaccine was available to us . I guess you are supposed to wait 90 days after natural infection for the jab , I think Im going to ride it out a little bit longer , and see what unfolds . New cases are pretty low in this area, and I don't go anywhere.
Good luck all, this whole thing is weird and confusing

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by fastfredracing

Thanks for the reply. And, yeah, I don't want that . I was pretty sick for 3-4 days, then felt sluggish for about 2 weeks both times.
Came back 100% as far as I can tell . My wife , still cannot taste or smell after 4 months .
Im 10 pounds overweight, non smoker, no drugs, drinker, no health issues , pretty active , so I think I am right in the pocket .
Id be lying if I said that I was not scared when we came down sick , but now , I am glad to see that my body did exactly what it was supposed to . twice.
You have to wonder now, how many times can someone become infected .
We got Covid before the vaccine was available to us . I guess you are supposed to wait 90 days after natural infection for the jab , I think Im going to ride it out a little bit longer , and see what unfolds . New cases are pretty low in this area, and I don't go anywhere.
Good luck all, this whole thing is weird and confusing

Fred,
I think what seahawk suggests is a good plan. You might consider being tested for antibodies. It might go a long way in helping you determine the best path forward for you.

[fastfredracing]

I think that is a really good idea, I was thinking about that when I saw his post .
Im not anti vax, just trying to make informed decisions that affect my life , and health.
Thanks all

[Bob Kontak]

My sister's husband contracted Covid within the last week. He has breakfast with my Dad every Sunday.

Brother in law was not vaccinated for sheeple reasons.

Thanks Island and every one like you for the profound insight.

Ain't nobody gonna control you.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

My sister's husband contracted Covid within the last week. He has breakfast with my Dad every Sunday.

Brother in law was not vaccinated for sheeple reasons.

Thanks Island and every one like you for the profound insight.

Ain't nobody gonna control you.

What are "sheeple reasons" ?

I mean, it seems a weird choice of words considering that taking the vax is a sheeple like decision. ...go along with the herd.

Perhaps you mean mule-like reasons, but decided to just go along with a pejorative that the herd so often use.

[cabmandone]

I think he might have meant stupid, uniformed, got my info from instagram, twitter,youtube and memes... reasons but went with sheeple instead. I could be wrong.

He could have meant that when questioned, the guy kept bringing up nonsense reasons and failed to understand the difference between a self proclaimed creator of a vaccine technology and the actual inventors themselves. But again, I could be wrong..

Now I have to go watch a video on youtube from some "frontline doctors" because that's where REALLY informed people get their information.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by island911

. ...go along with the herd.

MAGA = Sheeple.

[cabmandone]

Hey now! I'm not sheeple!!... or aaaaaaam Iiiiiiiiiii?

[Rikao4]

Originally Posted by cabmando

I wonder how long after the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines achieve full approval that they'll still be called "experimental"? Both will likely receive full approval in the next few months. Will they still be considered "experimental" even though they've gone through the same testing, are held to the same efficacy and safety standards as others?
I read a great article yesterday about one of the big things you hear from those who are against the vaccine. Many say it was rushed or hurried. The contributor said that "normally" when a drug or vaccine is in trials there is difficulty finding enough people exposed to whatever they are supposed to treat or protect against. In the case of covid, it wasn't hard finding people at risk of getting the virus since it spread easily and quickly. This made the trials easier to fill and faster to complete.

well babe...
when you've got no one else left to blame..
trust me...
trust us..
I promise..
we're pretty sure..
just let me poke you once..
twice..
did I hear thrice...
your not wearing your mask..
go to your room..

Rika