Vaccines are moving the needle...

[thor66]

https://scitechdaily.com/fighting-covid-with-covid-driving-the-disease-to-extinction-with-a-defective-version-of-the-sars-cov-2-virus/

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Hey now! I'm not sheeple!!... or aaaaaaam Iiiiiiiiiii?

Pffffft.

MAGA sheeple base their choices on memes and tic-tok.

I don't understand why every American does not haul ass to CVS or Walgreens and put an end to this. Haul ass like a boss!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by island911

Yeah? but Biden won and did so shattering even Obama's 2008 popularity record.

81 million bahahah's

Biden can bite the choad. Demented eff tard he is with loser side kick.

Get the God damned vaccine.

My Dad may die because of this mentality you promote.

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Biden can bite the choad. Demented eff tard he is with loser side kick.

Get the God damned vaccine.

My Dad may die because of this mentality you promote.

Where is your logic ? how does anyone else getting the vaccine effect you ? Clearly the jab doesn't work well on the Delta.. or does it ? If it does then great go get it.. be protected but don't shove it down our throats.. If someone chooses not to get it,, then it's on them... Same people who have been screaming don't eat GMO foods, my body my coat hanger.. now want to force everyone to get an experimental drug..
I"m not an anti vaxer ,, but these are not traditional vaccines ,, except the J and J ,, interesting however that I can't even find the J and J around here..

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Pffffft.

MAGA sheeple base their choices on memes and tic-tok.

I don't understand why every American does not haul ass to CVS or Walgreens and put an end to this. Haul ass like a boss!

I can understand it to some degree. There is a lot of fear out there surrounding the vaccine. Much of that fear is driven by piss poor information found on facebook and elsewhere. That's why I think the best thing to do is, if asked, make them think a little and suggest good sources for information.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

Where is your logic ? how does anyone else getting the vaccine effect you ? Clearly the jab doesn't work well on the Delta.. or does it ? If it does then great go get it.. be protected but don't shove it down our throats.. If someone chooses not to get it,, then it's on them... Same people who have been screaming don't eat GMO foods, my body my coat hanger.. now want to force everyone to get an experimental drug..
I"m not an anti vaxer ,, but these are not traditional vaccines ,, except the J and J ,, interesting however that I can't even find the J and J around here..

Yes.. it does. The evidence is in the number of non vaccinated people hospitalized after getting the virus vs those who are vaccinated. It works as it's supposed to work. The problem is, too many incorrectly think that the vaccine is supposed to prevent infection altogether. This is a point I made to my friend who lost his wife when he mentioned people getting the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting infected but it can prevent you from getting a severe case that causes hospitalization.

And if everyone gets vaccinated, we can stop this virus. But too many don't want to believe that because of the sh.tty sources they choose to get information from. Did I mention I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine and a frontline doctor? It's true! You saw it on the internet.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Rikao4

well babe...
when you've got no one else left to blame..
trust me...
trust us..
I promise..
we're pretty sure..
just let me poke you once..
twice..
did I hear thrice...
your not wearing your mask..
go to your room..

Rika

Sammy Davis Jr... is that you?

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Yes.. it does. The evidence is in the number of non vaccinated people hospitalized after getting the virus vs those who are vaccinated. It works as it's supposed to work. The problem is, too many incorrectly think that the vaccine is supposed to prevent infection altogether. This is a point I made to my friend who lost his wife when he mentioned people getting the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting infected but it can prevent you from getting a severe case that causes hospitalization.

And if everyone gets vaccinated, we can stop this virus. But too many don't want to believe that because of the sh.tty sources they choose to get information from. Did I mention I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine and a frontline doctor? It's true! You saw it on the internet.

That's what the MSM is telling us.. I've seen absolutely no statistical evidence to support this.. Also with all of the false positive testing ( again no information) Covid appears to be statistically not much different that the flu ( which apparently doesn't exist anymore). What they also aren't telling us is how many of the hospitalized had pre-existing conditions ? Again everyone should be free to make their own decisions.. the shaming and ruining of lives who don't want it is just wrong.. When they start limiting peoples ability to get groceries and other necessities it when it's going to get ugly ...

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

Where is your logic ? how does anyone else getting the vaccine effect you ? Clearly the jab doesn't work well on the Delta.. or does it ? If it does then great go get it.. be protected but don't shove it down our throats.. If someone chooses not to get it,, then it's on them... Same people who have been screaming don't eat GMO foods, my body my coat hanger.. now want to force everyone to get an experimental drug..
I"m not an anti vaxer ,, but these are not traditional vaccines ,, except the J and J ,, interesting however that I can't even find the J and J around here..

J&J is damn near everywhere. Check availability by zip code
https://www.solvhealth.com/

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

That's what the MSM is telling us.. I've seen absolutely no statistical evidence to support this.. Also with all of the false positive testing ( again no information) Covid appears to be statistically not much different that the flu ( which apparently doesn't exist anymore). What they also aren't telling us is how many of the hospitalized had pre-existing conditions ? Again everyone should be free to make their own decisions.. the shaming and ruining of lives who don't want it is just wrong.. When they start limiting peoples ability to get groceries and other necessities it when it's going to get ugly ...

Then you aren't looking very hard. But then again, I suppose you have to trust the source of the information and that's a tough thing for some.

I agree that everyone should be free to make their own decisions. The problem is, too many are making decisions based on piss poor information from questionable sources.

I haven't seen anyone "shamed" or a life ruined as a result of their decision not to get vaccinated.

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Then you aren't looking very hard. But then again, I suppose you have to trust the source of the information and that's a tough thing for some.

I agree that everyone should be free to make their own decisions. The problem is, too many are making decisions based on piss poor information from questionable sources.

I haven't seen anyone "shamed" or a life ruined as a result of their decision not to get vaccinated.

No? Please show me the statistics that a healthy person with no pre-existing conditions fairs worse than a person who got the jab but still got Covid .... vs a person who had Covid AND got the jab and still got Covid ?? There seem to be a large number of them out there..

Not ruining any lives?? Talk to all the health care workers who are losing their jobs because they refuse to get the jab... 25% of all health care workers in NYC have failed to be vaccinated .. What do they know that we don't ????

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

No? Please show me the statistics that a healthy person with no pre-existing conditions fairs worse than a person who got the jab but still got Covid .... vs a person who had Covid AND got the jab and still got Covid ?? There seem to be a large number of them out there..

Not ruining any lives?? Talk to all the health care workers who are losing their jobs because they refuse to get the jab... 25% of all health care workers in NYC have failed to be vaccinated .. What do they know that we don't ????

They ruined their own life by refusing a condition of employment. Choice.... sometimes it can kick your ass.

As for your first thing, if only the entire population was young and healthy... but that ain't reality. So.... I look at real world statistics. The real world tells me that younger people are getting the delta variant and they're needing to be hospitalized as a result. I know a 47 year old that died from complications related to covid last week. Was he the model of health? No. Like most Americans he was a little overweight, not obese.

I'd give you stats from Ohio but once you see they're from the state you'd probably doubt them so I see no point.

BTW, you said the vaccine doesn't work well against the variant and now you're changing your argument. Why??

I'm not here to change your mind. You do what you want to do. I don't personally care. I'm just correcting false information where I see false information.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

Where is your logic ? how does anyone else getting the vaccine effect you ? Clearly the jab doesn't work well on the Delta.. or does it ? If it does then great go get it.. be protected but don't shove it down our throats.. If someone chooses not to get it,, then it's on them... Same people who have been screaming don't eat GMO foods, my body my coat hanger.. now want to force everyone to get an experimental drug..
I"m not an anti vaxer ,, but these are not traditional vaccines ,, except the J and J ,, interesting however that I can't even find the J and J around here..

Here ya go!
https://www.solvhealth.com/nv/c/reno-nv-srv-covid-vaccine?vaccine_type=jnj

SF Bay area
https://www.solvhealth.com/ca/c/san-francisco-ca-srv-covid-vaccine?vaccine_type=jnj

[9dreizig]

Originally Posted by cabmando

They ruined their own life by refusing a condition of employment. Choice.... sometimes it can kick your ass.

As for your first thing, if only the entire population was young and healthy... but that ain't reality. So.... I look at real world statistics. The real world tells me that younger people are getting the delta variant and they're needing to be hospitalized as a result. I know a 47 year old that died from complications related to covid last week. Was he the model of health? No. Like most Americans he was a little overweight, not obese.

I'd give you stats from Ohio but once you see they're from the state you'd probably doubt them so I see no point.

BTW, you said the vaccine doesn't work well against the variant and now you're changing your argument. Why??

I'm not here to change your mind. You do what you want to do. I don't personally care. I'm just correcting false information where I see false information.

They ruined their own life ? So working their whole lives and suddenly their employer tells them they have to get jabbed and it's their fault?? How about the RN student who has one term left and the school suddenly insists they get jabbed? You think that's ok ? that's f-'d up dude..
Oh so you know a guy who has a friend that died at 47?? Is that your science ? oh that's right you have the numbers but I wouldn't believe them.. Guess you weren't captain of the debate team in college were ya ??

[thor66]

LOTS of " young and healthy" people in the ICUs

also fair # fare - your crazy arguments will be better able to worm their way into the weak minded if you learn what words mean

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

They ruined their own life ? So working their whole lives and suddenly their employer tells them they have to get jabbed and it's their fault?? How about the RN student who has one term left and the school suddenly insists they get jabbed? You think that's ok ? that's f-'d up dude..
Oh so you know a guy who has a friend that died at 47?? Is that your science ? oh that's right you have the numbers but I wouldn't believe them.. Guess you weren't captain of the debate team in college were ya ??

Yeah... it's their fault. If the employer says you must be vaccinated to work here, which makes sense in a healthcare environment, then that's what you do. If you choose not to, you made the choice to terminate your employment.

Now, IF you search for info the way you search for places giving the J&J vaccine, I can see why you're behind on the curve. Took me less than a minute to find providers in both areas. I didn't call them to verify so it could be fake news and one big conspiracy.

Cap'n of the debate team? Nah. Just some guy providing information. Maybe I'll put it on youtube or facebook so you'll believe me next time.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Here ya go!
https://www.solvhealth.com/nv/c/reno-nv-srv-covid-vaccine?vaccine_type=jnj

SF Bay area
https://www.solvhealth.com/ca/c/san-francisco-ca-srv-covid-vaccine?vaccine_type=jnj

Hey! Thieving from me again! My mRNA research and now vaccine location info!

[Sooner or later]

Rumblings that FDA will announce Pfizer full approval on Monday.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Hey! Thieving from me again! My mRNA research and now vaccine location info!

It's how I roll!

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Rumblings that FDA will announce Pfizer full approval on Monday.

Seems like it would make it a foregone conclusion then that Moderna is approved as well. Didn't they apply for approval about a week or two after Pfizer?

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

No? Please show me the statistics that a healthy person with no pre-existing conditions fairs worse than a person who got the jab but still got Covid .... vs a person who had Covid AND got the jab and still got Covid ?? There seem to be a large number of them out there..

Nothing personal, but you are surprisingly ill informed. If you're interested, do some research and let me know what you find out about the percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are attributable to the unvaccinated.

The natural immunity from having COVID isn't as good as having a vaccination.

Are you familiar with the saying "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"? That applies here. When the ill informed or deluded refuse to get vaccinated, they add to the pool of people where the virus can go and spread. Then there's the children under 12 and others that are more likely to get the virus as a result.