Cayman S Porsche Design Edition 1, Pro and con argument

[rusnak]

It's nice. Sport Chrono on an "S" is pretty much a must. PASM sucks. But if you can find sport seats and a 6-speed, even better. I have factory headers and added an IPD plenum and big throttle body. If nothing else, it sounds pretty much like Heaven.

I like the color. The wheels, not as much. One of the features that I wish I had: PCM and a Bluetooth stereo and a subwoofer. At this point, I'm going to leave it stock. But even my buggy has a better sound system than the Cayman.

[afterburn 549]

OK, thanx
Good info!!
I will keep on the lookout.

[JackDidley]

That looks like a good car. I have never driven a PDK car but I think it may be the way to go. Only thing I do not like is the color but on a used car its hard to find everything exactly as you like it.

[afterburn 549]

I have no emergency here....I will keep the hook in the water for a while and see what surfaces.
I HATE gray / silver. > i call them communist colors LOL

[masraum]

PDK is the automatic manual flappy paddle. Super fast shifts, and not a slushbox transmission. If you've got an S and especially PDK, then I think you'd want Sport Chrono, and this one has the "Sport Plus" option which takes things to another level. It's got a limited slip diff and sport exhaust which is nice. I don't think it's got PASM (no button for it, and not in the VIN decoder link). Sport seats would be nice, but aren't a deal breaker.

[afterburn 549]

Good to know! Thanx!!

[javadog]

The first PDK car I drove was something from that era, maybe a 2009, I can’t remember. It was a 911, not a Cayman, so take that for what it’s worth. I didn’t particularly care for it, as when you ran it in auto mode it upshifted far too quickly for my liking. Coming off of a stoplight, it seemed like you were in fourth gear by the time you cleared the intersection, or shortly thereafter.

Definitely drive one before you start looking for one in earnest. You may like it, you may not.

The last PDK car I drove was a 2014 911 turbo S. That one I had no problem with, but I mainly drove it at higher speeds.

[svandamme]

i'de say the design edition has little merit on function
anything with edition in the name , by Porsche... is a marketing ripoff

[masraum]

Originally Posted by javadog

The first PDK car I drove was something from that era, maybe a 2009, I can’t remember. It was a 911, not a Cayman, so take that for what it’s worth. I didn’t particularly care for it, as when you ran it in auto mode it upshifted far too quickly for my liking. Coming off of a stoplight, it seemed like you were in fourth gear by the time you cleared the intersection, or shortly thereafter.

Definitely drive one before you start looking for one in earnest. You may like it, you may not.

The last PDK car I drove was a 2014 911 turbo S. That one I had no problem with, but I mainly drove it at higher speeds.

Yes, in auto mode, they short shift. In Sport mode, they hold the shifts until later, I believe. Of course, you can always use the flappy paddles to make it do what you want.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by svandamme

i'de say the design edition has little merit on function
anything with edition in the name , by Porsche... is a marketing ripoff

I disagree.

Buy a car with options X, Y and Z, and you pay $15k for those options

Buy a special edition car with options X, Y, and Z and you may end up paying $5k less than the car above, and on top of getting options X, Y, and Z, you'll also get options, A, B, C, and D.

The special edition cars are usually essentially option packages (sometimes including minor stuff that's not available on a regular car), but often at a bit of a discount over adding the options to a regular car.

So, if you want a bunch of options, and there's a special edition that's got them, that may be your best way to get those options.

[svandamme]

new , sure, but not second hand

[afterburn 549]

The DE1 will at some point carry more resale value than a sister car outfitted the same -IMHO

[svandamme]

but they won't be as much fun cause they can't be driven else they might wear and loose more value..

[svandamme]

recently read somebody with sticker on his 911.

not driving your Porsche so it has better resale value
is like not f íng your girlfriend so she is more desireable to the next guy

[svandamme]

I guess you could convert that to

Spending more money on the prom queen
so you can try not to get jiggy with her at the prom
so she'll be a better catch and less of a slut
by the time the high school renunion happens and the nerd has become worth more then the quarterback jock ever was?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by svandamme

recently read somebody with sticker on his 911.

not driving your Porsche so it has better resale value
is like not f íng your girlfriend so she is more desireable to the next guy

Yep, I have been saying that for years. I don't get it.

"Found the hottest chick that I could because everyone thinks she's awesome. I'm saving her for the next guy!"

WTF?

[afterburn 549]

In my opinion, if I had to buy pre-2009, the DE1 would be my only consideration for a lot of reasons.
At some point, the liabilities of the IMS are going to start scaring people just as the Mag cases did for the 911.
Remember the "mid-year " reputations and all the nasty talk?
The dis dis dis?
Example- I bought ours for less than 6K!
But it was an S model, and of course, it finally became worth something years later after It was completely redone.
( and the reputations finally subsided)
I think there will be a renascence.

[svandamme]

but are you sure the new chain system of the DFI engines at twice the chain speed of all Porsche engines before it.. Isn't going to cause chain problems down the line ??
Porsche never ran cam chains at full rpm's before the DFI engines
Are those chains easy to replace on an engine?

[afterburn 549]

IDK, but we could do "what ifs all" day long without some sort of reason or evidence.
With the 1st Gen of Cayman, there is no "what if" there.
Cylinder scoring and IMS failure is a real percentage and as in - "Do I feel lucky?"
No, I don't.
I have a love for Porsche but not much for Russian Roulette.
BTDT. (mag Case)
Everyone has to make choices.
To hire out these engines to be fixed is at least $20K !
That just made a 30K car so way upside dwn to have $50 K in it.

Everyone has to do what they think is correct strategicly for their wallet. I have not ever bought a Porsche with end goal of making a profit.
At the same time, i don't want to get totally hosed.

[svandamme]

yeah, but damned if you do bored if you don't
My money is on the 2.7's being less likely to bore score , or d chunk.
and the ims.. well it's the double row bearing, best of the range
and I just do super regular oil changes and inspect the mag plug for flakes.
surely it won't fail 2 rows in 1 go.
so far nottn
And no oil burning off either.. so i got that going for me, which is nice.