cayenne choice

[IS300]

Hey Help

I have been looking Now At Cayennes... after the other thread.

would you give your opinions on what models to look for..

GTS or just an S or get a Turbo S

Also miles concerns and rebuilt cars?

thanks Anthony

[Roswell]

Just my preferences:

2015 or later, S model with PASM...with 21 inch wheels...

mileage under 120k, ideally under 100k

no rebuilds...

[ckissick]

My 2013 diesel is pretty nice. Diesel now costs more than gas, but I get a little over 30 mpg on the highway. I can go just about 600 miles on a tank.

[unclebilly]

Depends what you are looking for. A V6 is apparently rock solid reliable. We have a Cayenne S and it’s by far not the nicest example but it’s amazing to drive.

Here a photo I took this evening…

[cantdrv55]

That’s a beauty

[fintstone]

If you can find/afford one, I would look for a Turbo if looking for a 955. Both the aggressive looks and the better brakes. The turbocharged V8 also has a more robust engine oiling system...plus the additional horsepower. Pretty fast and great for towing.

[island911]

The turbo and the S share the same brakes. Well, the turbos are red, the S silver paint.

Good point about the turbocharged V8 also having a more robust engine oiling system (piston squirters) although I see a lot of S V8's with well over 200k on the original engine. Mine is at 175k no problems so far.

The biggest "win" for the Turbo, is the high trim level as standard. I was lucky to find full leather and PASM in my S. My wife's is on coils, which really sucks on Seattle roads. Anyway, many, if not most, GTS's you see will not have full leather. (all GTS's PASM)

I prefer the throttle response over the freight-train (delayed) power of the turbos. Perhaps 5% better fuel economy, if that matters.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

There are so many variable when deciding on a Cayenne from which body style do you like to its intended purpose: sports car vs. grocery getter vs. ...

I went with a 2010 GTS because I liked the 957 body style the best, it's a rocket ship and GTS seats are the best of any Cayenne. Love the wheels too. I drove an '08 S first and found it boring. I'll be posting about my experience over the last year and 17K miles soon. At 146.5K, driveshaft carrier bearing just went so doing that tomorrow.





Quick 30 hour drive out to CO to get a Scirocco in comfort





Tows 6K lb easily

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

...At 146.5K, driveshaft carrier bearing just went so doing that tomorrow...

FYI, I have about 50K miles on the $6 "Jimmy" fix without issue. Took about 10 minutes and didn't even need a lift (just raised it with the air system).

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I saw that video but I'm keeping the truck a long time, it's literally perfect for what I use it for. Even if I get the dreaded bore scoring (doubtful at this point), I'll just put another motor in it. $400 for the bearing fix is a bargain for not having to worry about ever again.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I saw that video but I'm keeping the truck a long time, it's literally perfect for what I use it for. Even if I get the dreaded bore scoring (doubtful at this point), I'll just put another motor in it. $400 for the bearing fix is a bargain for not having to worry about ever again.

If it wore out once, it can do it again...and may have already failed once or more times for the previous owner. It appears the "fix" is actually more reliable than the factory version (which appears to be a very poor design and the weak point in the drive train). I have yet to see one that was repaired in this manner fail (and lots of folks have done it) as it is significantly stronger than the factory/original version. Your call.

Mine is a long-term car too. We have had it a decade and are closing in on 200k. Good luck with your's.

[fastfredracing]

Turbo all day here. You get all the uplevel features, and not much on the road can pass you . I used to love leaving everything behind me at the stoplights
2nd choice would be the GTS

[Gus Berges]

Used to own a 955 series Turbo and it was a gremlins nightmare and a gas hog. Recently looked at a 958 series Turbo and is a significant improvement as long as you get a 2010 model to avoid the possibility of cylinder scoring. In my case, I'm about to close a deal on a 2011 (958 series) Turbo. It's a much better car overall, but I can see how others prefer the "rugged look" of the earlier versions and better off road capabilities. In my case, those two points do not apply and the price difference between a 2008 Turbo with 35K miles and a 2011 Turbo with 80K miles was just $2K.

[Jeff Alton]

I have had a 955 Turbo that we put just under 300K KMS on, and have had a 958 Turbo for the last 8 years. The 958 has a tune in it. It is one the my fave cars ever. It has 145K KMS and still drives and looks like new. It is crazy fast for a sport ute if you put your foot in it.

We also have a tuned Macan Turbo, which is more nimble, but does not have the room the Cayenne has.

Cheers

[ninelevenick]

We have both a 955 S and a 958 TT. The 955 is a great SUV. The 958 TT with PDCC and PTV is an excellent driving machine. A sport ute when we need it and a physics defying canyon carver when we want to have fun.

[jhynesrockmtn]

A buddy has a 2010 GTS he bought with about 100k on it. Mechanically it has been ok. Shifting was weird and balky. New tires helped. Looks like as fronts/rears wear differently it can screw with the AWD system? His big issue has been water intrusion. Apparently firewall and sunroof drains are finicky and his was likely stored outside much of its previous life. Apparently a pretty well documented issue on Cayenne forums. He's had water coming in and settling in both the front floors and storage cubby in the rear.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn

A buddy has a 2010 GTS he bought with about 100k on it. Mechanically it has been ok. Shifting was weird and balky. New tires helped. Looks like as fronts/rears wear differently it can screw with the AWD system? His big issue has been water intrusion. Apparently firewall and sunroof drains are finicky and his was likely stored outside much of its previous life. Apparently a pretty well documented issue on Cayenne forums. He's had water coming in and settling in both the front floors and storage cubby in the rear.

The water intrusion is a very well known issue and easy to fix. The good thing about buying an older Cayenne is most things that go wrong are well documented. You can look for them during the purchase cycle and research them during ownership.

[island911]

^ good points

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn

A buddy has a 2010 GTS he bought with about 100k on it. Mechanically it has been ok. Shifting was weird and balky. New tires helped. Looks like as fronts/rears wear differently it can screw with the AWD system? His big issue has been water intrusion. Apparently firewall and sunroof drains are finicky and his was likely stored outside much of its previous life. Apparently a pretty well documented issue on Cayenne forums. He's had water coming in and settling in both the front floors and storage cubby in the rear.

The GTS is on air suspension. Tell him to have the alignment set at the level mostly driven. -from low to high the toe changes drastically.

Shifting problem is likely a sticky valve-body solenoid. Those (Japanese) gearboxes usually shift very smoothly.

[jhynesrockmtn]

Originally Posted by island911

^ good points

The GTS is on air suspension. Tell him to have the alignment set at the level mostly driven. -from low to high the toe changes drastically.

Shifting problem is likely a sticky valve-body solenoid. Those (Japanese) gearboxes usually shift very smoothly.

Thanks. I will pass this along. He actually has a retired Porsche tech on his construction company payroll (long story) and they are planning on a full trans service soon. He has also chased down the leaks and seems to feel he has that sorted. I should say he loves the Cayenne, it is a beast and sounds fantastic. His looks just like Shaun's in silver.

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by fintstone

If it wore out once, it can do it again...and may have already failed once or more times for the previous owner. It appears the "fix" is actually more reliable than the factory version (which appears to be a very poor design and the weak point in the drive train). I have yet to see one that was repaired in this manner fail (and lots of folks have done it) as it is significantly stronger than the factory/original version. Your call.

Mine is a long-term car too. We have had it a decade and are closing in on 200k. Good luck with your's.

I did that to fix to my '08 daily driver about 3 years ago.... Works perfect and was quick and easy. It is silly to replace an otherwise perfectly good shaft.