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I agree, but you would have some more warning..
they don't go from workign to nont working in no time, while driving.

note he was not braking , pulling to impress
braking nothing

I think that's to do with old fluid, full of moisture

with good brake fluid, he would have had "some" braking and it would have been just enough (IF he had also cut ignition)
They might not change that quickly in a 300hp car, but in a car with 1300hp (and presumably gobs of torque provided by that blower) if the brakes are being used to reign in the engine, then they may overheat really quickly. I assume the characteristics are very different when riding the brakes almost constantly at low speed in traffic vs pegging them for a few seconds at a time on a track. I'm guessing the situation that he was in was more like driving down a mountain while towing a big heavy trailer.

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Old 08-02-2022, 07:14 AM
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well fair enough, but as I mentioned, i think they would have given some hints(in the braking feel/result)at loosing braking power more gradually IF his brake fluid would have been fresh and properly bled.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:16 AM
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It wouldn’t surprise me if he hadn’t changed the fluid in that car since he put the brakes on it. 17 years previously, give or take, from what I gather.

Boiling the fluid generally doesn’t give you much warning. You can go from having brakes to not having brakes just instantly.

He also had some sort of throttle linkage or high idle issue, it should’ve ended the ride right there.

Stupid, stupid people.
Old 08-02-2022, 07:23 AM
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that's my point , good dry fluid and bled lines, won't go totally to the floor without a bit of warning in the pedal before.
you'll start to notice before its totally gone, hydraulic brake systems have been around pretty much unchanged for ages, because they are so reliable and don't fail instantly without any warning..

breaks get hot, you'll start to notice somethings before they are "gone"
fluid leaks , you'll get a warning light , BEFORE it is dry in the line..

It really is a very well mature system, IF the mechanic who installed it did his job, and used the right components, fluids and bled properly.

You can totally over cook your brake pads.
glazed to the point of no return

if your fluid is in spec, and properly bled, you will have some braking capacity left.
You might need to pump twice and it might not be max braking capacity

But he had plenty of room, all he had to do with shut down the ignition and keep stomping that pedal

video shows he didn't even slow down a little bit.
the guy is an absolute moron who should not be allowed to drive or work on cars with more then 100bhp.
And that's what caused 2 wives to divorce him : The moron part.
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Old 08-02-2022, 08:27 AM
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And yes it was a mistake, some ignition line had gotten in between the mfi linkages..
but it was just one and not a series of choises with blatant disregard for common sense.
I've done exactly this, going into stopped traffic.

Never again.
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The passenger should be treating rides in peoples cars like a DE instructor. So many flags.
Pit out now!!!
Idiot didn't even have collision insurance.
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:24 AM
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Just bought a new SUV for someone (he's considered uninsured motorist) + cleanup + fines for no insurance .

He's screwed.

On 2nd thought, why would you even drop coverage? Is it really THAT expensive?

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Old 08-02-2022, 09:29 AM
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At least this guy has adequate brakes.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40890742/remember-your-gp2-car-is-not-road-legal/

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Hot damn is it cool to see that car on the road Pavulon!
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Well i had #6 adjusted perfectly but then just before i tightened it a butterfly in Zimbabwe farted and now i have to start all over again!
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Hot damn is it cool to see that car on the road Pavulon!
Reminds me of the Cheech and Chong movie where they rip around in the Ferrari and he says "how do you get this thing out of first gear?" lol
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Makes all the right noise and all the right moves yet people don't know who the driver is!
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Gotta wonder how that thing copes with potholes, bumps or uneven pavement.



On the OP video that was awful to watch and a fantastic argument against lap belts only.
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A 727 will go to neutral if you drop too many gears, but killing the ignition would be a good start. A 727 will go into reverse at speed if selected, not sure on GM transmissions.

I had the brakes fail on the Cobra. Coming down from Julian CA through Anza Borrego they did fine right up until they didn't work. Oddly, they went flat to the floor after about 10 minutes of no braking, but I think it took that long to radiate from the pads to the fluid. I had melted pad material on the discs. Next day had a big brake kit ordered.

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