F1 2023

[Zeke]

I'm referring to a American accent in the booth. Sounds a bit like James Hinchcliffe.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I'm referring to a American accent in the booth. Sounds a bit like James Hinchcliffe.

it was.. he's a good addition...

[Deschodt]

Wondering how long they will let that continue, vs Marko skewering deVries any chance he gets...



While not a fan of McLaren (mostly due to Zack and the alpine piastri saga), it's hard not to smile for Peter Pan (I mean Norris). Good for him, he's really good that one...deserves a win !

Odd season, with Mercedes threatening for a win and then nowhere, McLaren vice versa, lots of cars appear to be very sensitive to tires/track temperature this season to a degree I don't recall before. And then there's max, "who ruins everything" ;-)

[matthewb0051]

Seemed an awful long time to get K-Mag's car off the track. Some good racing in those last few laps as a result.

I can't seem to appreciate the Brit GP as much as other races. I think it is because there are no reference points on the track and I usually can't figure out where the drivers are on track.

Crofty tried to play it off at the end of race like Hammy was checking out the other cars, when actually he was trying to get away from the camera man as he got his 'hair' fixed into a ponytail.

[matthewb0051]

More Grid Walk drama this past weekend. Some Hollywood woman refused to talk with Brundle. It was pathetic.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1/martin-brundle-cara-delevingne-grid-30427768

[Deschodt]

well it's official, Marko got his wish and sacked Devries - who will be replaced from Hungary on.. One might notice Ricciardo is smiling a lot lately - apparently he's got the job. Should he smile? If he gets beaten by Tsunoda, his career is done. All that to fight for 11th...

Part of me is suprised Marko didn't replace PErez with Ricciardo (not like they need his points anymore) and used a junior driver at AlphaTauri. Maybe hard contractually.

[rfuerst911sc]

My bet is Daniel will be signed to stay on at Alpha Tauri to head up the rebranding/restructuring of the team . Tsunoda is too inconsistent and if Daniel can perform as he did before his McLaren stint he is a solid choice . You can't ask for a better brand ambassador everyone seems to like him .

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

well it's official, Marko got his wish and sacked Devries - who will be replaced from Hungary on.. One might notice Ricciardo is smiling a lot lately - apparently he's got the job. Should he smile? If he gets beaten by Tsunoda, his career is done. All that to fight for 11th...

Part of me is suprised Marko didn't replace PErez with Ricciardo (not like they need his points anymore) and used a junior driver at AlphaTauri. Maybe hard contractually.

I just saw Ricardo is officially the driver on at the next race. He best be faster than Tsunoda. It will be interesting.

[Deschodt]

yeah - I think Tsunoda is underrated because he looks like a chubby 15y old boy with a potty mouth. But he annihilated Devries who did OK last year at williams at monza. Im not placing bets because it's hard to tell which Ricciardo we get, the one of old or the Renault/mclaren one. But yes, he better trounce tsunoda or at least be on par, or he's toast... this return in that team is a double edged sword. Then again, he's rich.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

yeah - I think Tsunoda is underrated because he looks like a chubby 15y old boy with a potty mouth. But he annihilated Devries who did OK last year at williams at monza. Im not placing bets because it's hard to tell which Ricciardo we get, the one of old or the Renault/mclaren one. But yes, he better trounce tsunoda or at least be on par, or he's toast... this return in that team is a double edged sword. Then again, he's rich.

And almost every out of work driver would jump at the chance to race again. They all have the confidence that they can win, and beat their teammate. Well, except Perez and Stroll.

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

And almost every out of work driver would jump at the chance to race again. They all have the confidence that they can win, and beat their teammate. Well, except Perez and Stroll.

That sounds like a plot line for a film with a young black phenom driver

[rfuerst911sc]

The pressure will be on for Danny Ric to perform . But he's also stepping into a new car/team/engineers etc etc so there will be some learning curve .

But if he out performs Yuki right out of the gate a lot of pressure will go away . It will be interesting to see how this plays out .

What happens with DeVries? Does he sign on as a test driver ? Go to Formula E ? Indycar ? Sportscars ?

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

What happens with DeVries? Does he sign on as a test driver ? Go to Formula E ? Indycar ? Sportscars ?

W Series?

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Danny Ric, love his attitude to F1/life, hope he does well, great to see him back racing 😎

I did read his test times at yesterday's Silverstone would have put him on the front row of the grid. An hour into the test Horner called Helmut to tell him how fast he was, less than hour later Helmut called back to say he'd sacked Nyck de Vries. Checco had better speed up or he'll be out next year

Under Helmut being part of the Redbull stable must be a mentally brutal experience, bet every driver other than Max dread seeing his name pop on an incoming call on their phone

In other news, shouldn't be too long now before the FIA announce if any new teams can join F1

If Andretti and GM can't get in, something is wrong with the sport! Boy, oh boy are they going to be in for a shock when they realise how difficult being competitive is to achieve

Just look at the chopping and changing of who is best of the rest between the Mercedes, Ferrari, Aston Martin, McLaren and a lesser extent Alpine

[red 928]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

well it's official, Marko got his wish and sacked Devries - who will be replaced from Hungary on.. One might notice Ricciardo is smiling a lot lately - apparently he's got the job. Should he smile? If he gets beaten by Tsunoda, his career is done. All that to fight for 11th...

Part of me is suprised Marko didn't replace PErez with Ricciardo (not like they need his points anymore) and used a junior driver at AlphaTauri. Maybe hard contractually.

Ricciardo got sacked at red bull because he did
not perform as well as the car he was driving.
IMO he is an over-rated average driver
on the grid with the best PR team.

[stealthn]

I find it strange how everyone assumes Perez will be out if Daniel is good at AT, he is still second in points right now and let’s not forget how many investors he brings to RB.

Wishing Daniel good luck.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by red 928

Ricciardo got sacked at red bull because he did
not perform as well as the car he was driving.
IMO he is an over-rated average driver
on the grid with the best PR team.

I do not recall it that way - but it's been a while. In my memory, he chose to leave Red Bull because the team was showing strong favoritism towards Verstappen, even after they came together in Baku. He basically told them to F-Off by going to $$ at renault, certainly was not let go..

Performance wise, RIC trounced Vettel in his last year at RB, and then beat MAX in points 2016-2017 handily - and was not too far in 2018 when he left. Certainly a lot closer than Perez is now.

I would grant you the PR machine is great with RIC and he is a character loved by fans - probably more than a potential world champion, but in my book he did better than Perez overall. Perez should worry as Marko is saying things about him that sound like stuff he said about all the drivers he fired. Ric's return in the family is a shot across the bow for Sergio to start qualifying better. After that who knows. The one eyed boss is devious.

[GH85Carrera]

Danny Ric has a great smile, and seems to really enjoy life. He would be top of my list to share a few beers and listen to stories he has, and spend a night out at bars with.

He was once very fast. Lets hope he has that spark again.

[Rtrorkt]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Danny Ric has a great smile, and seems to really enjoy life. He would be top of my list to share a few beers and listen to stories he has, and spend a night out at bars with.

He was once very fast. Lets hope he has that spark again.

He needs to be faster than TSO right out of the box or Marko will pounce again. Assume PER is listening and watching carefully

[red 928]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

I do not recall it that way - but it's been a while. In my memory, he chose to leave Red Bull because the team was showing strong favoritism towards Verstappen, even after they came together in Baku. He basically told them to F-Off by going to $$ at renault, certainly was not let go..

Performance wise, RIC trounced Vettel in his last year at RB, and then beat MAX in points 2016-2017 handily - and was not too far in 2018 when he left. Certainly a lot closer than Perez is now.

I would grant you the PR machine is great with RIC and he is a character loved by fans - probably more than a potential world champion, but in my book he did better than Perez overall. Perez should worry as Marko is saying things about him that sound like stuff he said about all the drivers he fired. Ric's return in the family is a shot across the bow for Sergio to start qualifying better. After that who knows. The one eyed boss is devious.

Vettel was not much of a bar to judge,
But yes, Ricardo outscored Vettel by 38 points in 2014.

And in 2015 Ricardo got whipped in the points
by his team-mate, Daniil Kvyat.
Hard to live that one down.
Also in 2015, Vettel outscored Ricardo by 173 points
(2rd place vs 7th place).

He did a little better than Max in 2016 and 17.
it took Max several years to hit his stride,
lots of rookie mistakes and crashes.
but even back then it was obvious he would
eventually outshine Riccardo.

But I think the year that really hurt him was in 2021 when
the young Lando Norris whipped him badly in an identical McLaren
(160 to 115).
Just to prove it wasn't a fluke,
the next year lando beat him 122 to 37 (11th place).

Daniel is a nice guy,
But as I said, I believe he's an average driver.
I have nothing against him except that
he gets so much undeserved press and hype.

I'd say he is about on par with Perez talent-wize,
who I haven't rooted for since he intentionally crashed
his team mate Ocon many years ago
under a yellow flag because Ocon had the audacity
to challenge him on-track.
I think it's karma that he is getting embarrassed
by his current teammate at nearly every race this year.