Tourist mini sub missing off titanic

[jyl]

I mean, when are they going to get to the good stuff?!?

Engineering schmengineering, who cares. We want to know what happened to the bodies!!!

[herr_oberst]

Scott Manley has weighed in to the inquiry with impressive new footage of the debris field

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by jyl

What I want to know is: when a submersible instantly implodes at that depth, what happens to the human bodies? .

One video said 'they go from being biology to being physics'.

[unclebilly]

Am I reading this right? The nose had previously fallen off?

Wait? What?

https://media.defense.gov/2024/Sep/22/2003551435/-1/-1/0/CG-102%20IMAGE%20OF%20TITAN%20AFTER%20FORWARD%20DOME% 20FELL%20OFF_REDACTED.PDF

[A930Rocket]

^^^ Sure looks like it did. WTF?

[jyl]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Scott Manley has weighed in to the inquiry with impressive new footage of the debris field

Super interesting!

I had this image of an ROV with grabbers picking up fragments of bone or clothing slimed with people from the ocean floor, which would have required the people bits be large enough to see and grab. Now I wonder if the recovered human remains were from that compressed mass of shattered carbon fiber crammed into the rear hemisphere, which doesn’t indicate if the bits are large or small.

[herr_oberst]

This video is a year old, and the theory of where the breach happened is dated here, but this guy articulates the "biology to physics" aspect of the implosion better than any I've heard or read so far. A really good (merciful) explanation, too, on the delay from what we see with our eyes until that moment registers in our brain.

[unclebilly]

Originally Posted by jyl

Super interesting!

I had this image of an ROV with grabbers picking up fragments of bone or clothing slimed with people from the ocean floor, which would have required the people bits be large enough to see and grab. Now I wonder if the recovered human remains were from that compressed mass of shattered carbon fiber crammed into the rear hemisphere, which doesn’t indicate if the bits are large or small.

I think they must have been crammed in there... ugh.. what away to die. This explains why the reports at th etime merely said human remains have been recovered... and this piece was covered in a tarp when they unloaded it.

[jyl]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

This video is a year old, and the theory of where the breach happened is dated here, but this guy articulates the "biology to physics" aspect of the implosion better than any I've heard or read so far. A really good (merciful) explanation, too, on the delay from what we see with our eyes until that moment registers in our brain.

So, a combination of pressure, shredding and extrusion, leaving liquid, slime, paste, with some solid bits that might have been teeth or bone or implants.

CG did DNA testing to figure out whose remains it had - interesting to find out if they were able to tell, and if there was enough to bury?

[dad911]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yg5qggvwjo

The USCG believes that the carbon fibre layers of the hull started to break apart during a dive to the Titanic, which took place a year before the disaster - the 80th dive that Titan had made.

Passengers on board reported hearing a loud bang as the sub made its way back to the surface. They said that at the time Mr Rush said that this noise was the sub shifting in its frame.

But the USCG says the data collected from sensors fitted to Titan shows that the bang was caused by delamination.

"Delamination at dive 80 was the beginning of the end," said Lieutenant Commander Katie Williams from USCG.

[Noah930]

How many dives in total?

[osidak]

per this link
https://www.businessinsider.com/titan-sub-reached-titanic-depth-dive-stockton-rush-2023-7

the titan made 90 dives of which 13 went to titanic depth

[craigster59]

They did a dramatization of the implosion. Their bodies vaporized in 150 milliseconds,

https://x.com/Alphafox78/status/1791651845418402202

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by craigster59

They did a dramatization of the implosion.

Instant. No time for fear.

[911 Rod]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Instant. No time for fear.

Poof. Gone. A good way to go assuming you want to die. lol

[A930Rocket]

Update today 8/5/25 and it’s no surprise the blame rests on the shoulders of the CEO and designer Stockton Rush. What an ass.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/explosive-new-report-blames-oceangate-and-its-ceo-for-preventable-titan-sub-disaster

A damning new report on the Titan submersible disaster that killed five people has revealed that the tragedy was preventable, and the result of a flawed experimental design and ignored safety warnings — with particular culpability placed on OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush.

The 335-page report by the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) is the first full government post-mortem on the tragedy to date and the first official document to clearly assign blame to OceanGate, the now-defunct operators of the ill-fated vessel, and Rush.

The report paints Rush as the architect of the submersible's failure who overruled engineers' warnings about the vessel's flawed design, which ultimately led to the vessel imploding near the Titanic wreck in the North Atlantic Ocean in 2023, resulting in the instantaneous death of all five occupants.

VIDEO SHOWS OCEANGATE CEO'S WIFE REACT AFTER SOUND NOW THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN TITAN SUB IMPLOSION

Rush, who was piloting Titan when it imploded nearly 11,000 feet below the Atlantic Ocean, insisted on using a five-inch-thick carbon fiber hull despite failed model tests and industry opposition. The submersible's viewport was only rated for depths of 2,130 feet, far less than the 12,500 feet needed to reach the Titanic.

"This marine casualty and the loss of five lives was preventable," said Jason Neubauer, the USCG Titan Marine Board of Investigation (MBI) chair. "The two-year investigation has identified multiple contributing factors that led to this tragedy, providing valuable lessons learned to prevent a future occurrence."

Previous reports focused on the technical cause of the Titan's implosion but stopped short of assigning blame.

"Mr. Rush exerted full control over every facet of the company's operations and engineering decisions... His refusal to prioritize safety and his dominant leadership style created an environment where the Titan's eventual implosion became almost a certainty," the report found.

The board determined the primary contributing factors were OceanGate's inadequate design, certification, maintenance and inspection process for the Titan. Other factors included a toxic workplace culture at OceanGate, weak safety rules for deep-sea subs like Titan — especially those using new or experimental designs — and a broken system for protecting employees who tried to speak out.

Titan suffered a catastrophic implosion due to structural failure of its carbon fiber composite pressure hull and the carbon fiber hull showed signs of fatigue and delamination in testing before the fatal dive. While OceanGate engineers and advisors raised serious concerns about its safety margin, they were ignored or sidelined by Rush, per the report.

"Titan’s carbon fiber hull design and construction, in terms of winding, curing, gluing, thickness of hull and manufacturing standards, introduced flaws that weakened the overall structural integrity of the Titan hull," the report reads. "The carbon fiber pressure hull suffered a full material collapse due to buckling on its final dive."

Several red flags were raised in previous dives, but Rush continued operating Titan, dismissed internal warnings and concealed critical damage from crew and clients, the report found.

For instance, more than 150 loud hull-cracking noises were heard in a 2019 dive, indicating progressive degradation. A four-foot crack was later found in the original hull, which was de-rated after pressure testing — prompting OceanGate to build a new one. However, throughout the development of both hulls, four one-third scale models were tested and all of them imploded under pressure, reinforcing that the carbon fiber design was unstable.

Additionally, the forward dome of the Titan — a 3,500-pound pressure-bearing component — was designed to be secured with 18 bolts, but Rush only used four bolts, according to testimony from OceanGate’s director of engineering at the time.

During a 2021 Titanic dive, Titan’s four securing bolts sheared off while being hoisted aboard the Horizon Arctic, causing the forward dome to detach and fall onto the Launch and Recovery System platform in a catastrophic mechanical failure that narrowly avoided injuring the crew.

The report found OceanGate bypassed industry-standard certification, ignored its own Health, Safety, and Environmental (HSE) manual and fostered a culture that suppressed safety concerns.

[Crowbob]

This looks like a murder-suicide to me.

[jyl]

Also Oceangate had a pattern of fraud, e.g. classified passengers as crew to get around passenger number limits, etc. Rush deserved to die, his estate deserves to be gutted.