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speeder 09-05-2023 09:53 AM

The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. The scarcest is logic. That’s what should be taught in kindergarten…beaten into their heads.

cockerpunk 09-05-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 12082853)
It’s fun to play pretend mad max until the real lord of the flies begins.

burning man isnt mad max.

there are whole festivals for this kind of thing though if you are interested, its called wasteland weekend.

speeder 09-05-2023 10:10 AM

Burning Man has evolved, like every other event or festival that has gotten too popular thanks to the internet. Nothing cool will ever stay cool in future. Everything becomes monetized and corporatized immediately, which is like throwing a bucket of ice water on an orgy.

Going out to the middle of the desert with a bunch of kooks has never appealed to me but I have a good friend who went to BM in the beginning and tried to explain it to me. No matter how he tried, he could never make it sound good, IMO, of course. To each their own.

Now, it’s something like 70k people(?) who each paid thousands of dollars to go somewhere and take selfies to post on Instagram. I can’t personally imagine a lower rung of hell, even without a bad weather event. Still, it’s not a gathering of leftists or climate activists. Htf would someone deduce that? :confused:

HobieMarty 09-05-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12082799)
That's your own baggage.

I have never understood getting bent over what other people do. Makes no sense to me. Go outside and be happy.

Dude I really couldn't care any less about this, just voicing an opinion and that's all. Moving on. [emoji106]

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Rick Lee 09-05-2023 10:52 AM

I went to see Metallica on Friday. Sold out stadium, 65k people. I only went because I got free tix and parking. I was in my bed about an hour after the last song ended. I cannot imagine going to a big, multi-day festival in the middle of nowhere. Just hell no. Last time I saw Metallica was at an all day show at Giants Stadium in 1988. But I was there to see Van Halen, so it was worth waiting out the other bands. And I was 17 then. But hell no these days.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-05-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12082875)
Dude I really couldn't care any less about this, just voicing an opinion and that's all. Moving on. [emoji106]

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Cool. And you get 5 points for using the phrase "could not care less" correctly which seems to be a problem around here, so well done. :)

sc_rufctr 09-05-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 12082853)
It’s fun to play pretend mad max until the real lord of the flies begins.

This ^^^

Quentin Kenihan - "Corpus Colossus" in Mad Max: Fury Road.

A local who made something of his life. RIP.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/a-colourful-life-quentin-kenihan-in-photos/image-gallery/f399a126926de39cd0f9bfb9919fc24c

Our town hall can be seen in the background. The Beatles stood on the balcony when they visited Adelaide.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1693951487.jpg

From the link above.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1693951679.jpg

HobieMarty 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

you can't have a profoundly transformative experience on your own couch. you have to go out and do uncomfortable things, things you've never done before...

Oh yeah, well I guess you've never done acid in your living room and watch the walls bleed color then huh? [emoji23]

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flatbutt 09-05-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12083032)
you can't have a profoundly transformative experience on your own couch. you have to go out and do uncomfortable things, things you've never done before...

Oh yeah, well I guess you've never done acid in your living room and watch the walls bleed color then huh? [emoji23]

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I've seen walls melt...does that count?

Jeff Higgins 09-05-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12082849)
you can't have a profoundly transformative experience on your own couch. you have to go out and do uncomfortable things, things you've never done before, things that make you uncomfortable, unsafe, etc if you want to have a profound experience. it doesnt just show up on your doorstep and you unbox it.

This has got to be the funniest goddamned thing I've read on the internet all day. I have to thank you for the laugh.

Driving one's motor home out into the middle of the desert only to park it amongst 80,000 other people doing the same in the world's schittiest RV park is in no way "profound", nor is it anything close to a "profoundly transformative experience". Anyone who actually believes it is is just a part of the joke.

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12082871)
Burning Man has evolved, like every other event or festival that has gotten too popular thanks to the internet. Nothing cool will ever stay cool in future. Everything becomes monetized and corporatized immediately, which is like throwing a bucket of ice water on an orgy.

Going out to the middle of the desert with a bunch of kooks has never appealed to me but I have a good friend who went to BM in the beginning and tried to explain it to me. No matter how he tried, he could never make it sound good, IMO, of course. To each their own.

Now, it’s something like 70k people(?) who each paid thousands of dollars to go somewhere and take selfies to post on Instagram. I can’t personally imagine a lower rung of hell, even without a bad weather event. Still, it’s not a gathering of leftists or climate activists. Htf would someone deduce that? :confused:

Denis, like pretty much everyone else (but one) in this discussion gets it.

This whole thing has devolved into the "usual suspects" (who likewise ruin everything else they touch, re Sturgis and similar gatherings) desperately trying to experience something "profound" or "transformative". They think they can just drive their RV right up to it, buy a ticket and "experience" it. And they go home thoroughly convinced they have... because they never really have, and never really will...

They can do whatever they want, of course. I will always champion their right to do that. I love the fact that most probably have a good time. But, at this point in its development, for anyone to call their experience at BM "profound" or "transformative" is just laughable. And I reserve the right to laugh at them, and have my own good time doing so.

Zeke 09-05-2023 04:36 PM

How Many People Attend the Quartzsite RV Show? Over the week, the Quartzsite RV Show welcomes an estimated 750,000 to one million people. This is one RV show many people don't want to miss, and many travelers plan their itinerary around it.

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In the middle of nowhere.

HobieMarty 09-05-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12083050)
I've seen walls melt...does that count?

I was quoting cockerpunk, pointing out that one can have an "experience" while sitting on their couch after all. Lol.
Melting walls do count by the way. Lol.

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Por_sha911 09-05-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12082714)
That's not what I said.

Never underestimate the ability of a troll to twist what you say.

Por_sha911 09-05-2023 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12082799)
I have never understood getting bent over what other people do. Makes no sense to me. Go outside and be happy.

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12082875)
Dude I really couldn't care any less about this, just voicing an opinion and that's all.

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 12082919)
Cool. And you get 5 points for using the phrase "could not care less" correctly which seems to be a problem around here, so well done.

I have never understood getting bent over if a person uses a phrase correctly. Go outside and be happy.
p.s. I could care less but chose not to.

cockerpunk 09-06-2023 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 12083068)
This has got to be the funniest goddamned thing I've read on the internet all day. I have to thank you for the laugh.

Driving one's motor home out into the middle of the desert only to park it amongst 80,000 other people doing the same in the world's schittiest RV park is in no way "profound", nor is it anything close to a "profoundly transformative experience". Anyone who actually believes it is is just a part of the joke.

imagine thinking this is the burning man experience.

as i said, burns are Rorschach tests. if this is what you think a burn is, then you are right. thats what your burn would be like.

and i feel sorry that you lack life experience and desire to do more.

cockerpunk 09-06-2023 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12083121)
I was quoting cockerpunk, pointing out that one can have an "experience" while sitting on their couch after all. Lol.
Melting walls do count by the way. Lol.

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i mean, if you want to take acid in your living room, and watch the wall paper crawl, something i have done, and that is transformative to you ... good for you? i did not find that experience particularly transformative, its honestly, a bit boring. the enjoyment of psychedelics is interacting with things, new things. new people etc.

but again, i feel kinda sad for you that you lack the imagination and life experience to want to experience more than that. visuals are kind of silly i guess. but don't you want to go places in your mind and in life that are new? is something actually new that scary? why do so many people stop wanting to experience new things as they age?



burns are Rorschach tests. how you project that experience says more about you, than it does about burners, and their experiences.

its telling that everyone wants to **** on burners experiences, based on there own projections and inadequacies. says very little about burns, and says alot about those people.

HobieMarty 09-06-2023 07:13 AM

Wow!!! You are just making all kinds of friends here, such a presumptuous twit that really thinks a lot of its holier-than-thou-self.

Trust me, I probably have more "life experiences" than you have mental capacity to understand them all so feel sad for yourself.

I do enjoy experiencing new things and new places but I have absolutely no desire to be hanging out for a few days with 80,000 stinky people who are trying to "find themselves" by having "their" experience in a freaking mud pit all to watch something be set ablaze, and I'm good with that.
If you like that kind of thing, good on ya bro, but not everyone is so enlightened as you perceive to be so, why not just leave it at that. Mmmkay. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1ad41d6c4d.jpg

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cockerpunk 09-06-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 12083406)
Wow!!! You are just making all kinds of friends here, such a presumptuous twit that really thinks a lot of its holier-than-thou-self.

you are the one ****ting on 70,000+ people's experiences, and thinking that you know more than them, about something you have never done, and that they have done, many times.

its not me that is acting like a presumptuous twit and holier-than-thou. look in the mirror. you do not get to dictate to me about something you know nothing about, and then be all mad in your little panties that i disagree, becasue ive actually done the thing you are pontificating about, baselessly and without any knowledge of.

besides, i thought you didnt care about this stuff. :rolleyes: why are you even here?

HobieMarty 09-06-2023 07:22 AM

Oh you are so right, dang, ya caught me, my bad, whatever dude. You must've been sitting anxiously waiting for a replay so you could counter because you respond to things with such lightning speed.
Bye bye now, bye bye.

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Jeff Higgins 09-06-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12083370)
and i feel sorry that you lack life experience and desire to do more.

You have no idea my life experience... Just a very brief, certainly less than all inclusive rundown:

I've been on every continent but two (and have hunted on two of them), and in just short of 40 foreign countries (got arrested and jailed in two of them). Not all "friendly"...

Got evacuated from one West African schitthole by UN troops as rebels were closing in on the city in which we were working. Riding in the back of an army truck hearing broken French accented English saying "get your white" on the radio. That'd be us.

I've climbed Mt Rainier.

I've lived both out of a backpack and off of a pack string in remote wilderness for several weeks at a time (on many, many occasions), unsupported by any outside help.

I've lived and worked with the people occupying both sides of the Dead Sea for extended periods of time (and have swam in both sides), profoundly saddened by just how much they hate one another (both a fantastic peoples, and a real joy to spend time with).

None of that was "profoundly transformative", of course. Standing in the Garden of Gethsemane where Judas betrayed Jesus kinda was, though, as was walking the stations of the cross in Jerusalem, and standing in the very room in which the Last Supper was held. Seeing pyramids on three continents and understanding their profound significance to those who built them might have been as well...

I could go on. I've led a very full and rewarding life, by no means lacking in experience. It's from this perspective through which I view those simply driving their RV into the desert and paying an exorbitant fee to camp with 80,000 of their new best friends. I see them trying to convince themselves, one another, and us that they are having some sort of "profoundly transformative" experience. It's these people who are so utterly devoid of anything "profound" in their lives that they have to resort to this sort of contrived nonsense. They're fooling themselves, but no one else. Kinda sad to watch, really. But at least they are having fun...


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