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Maybe it bothers me more than it should....

There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words properly. Now get off my lawn!

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There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words they way they're spelled.
Like Wednesday or Salmon?
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Like Wednesday or Salmon?
Touché. I'll edit my post
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There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words they way they're spelled.
I think this is common in England, and I think it's also done in (for lack of a better term) ebonics.

If it's a 4 year old, it wouldn't bother me. But if it was someone over the age of 10 or 12...
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Regional accents are different east coast, down south, and west coast.........wonder why that is?.

Try pronouncing some Indian tribe names.........


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There's a trend in spoken English language by younger adult people. Words like "mountain" are now pronounced "mow-un"; i.e. the t is silent.

It's called glottalization.

I wish they'd quit it and go back to pronouncing words properly. Now get off my lawn!
Yer prolly right ... dang youngins !
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Or same as spellin in texts. Too lazy to put an e at the end of there (ther) etc.
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How did Shakespeare pronounce mt.?
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If it's a 4 year old, it wouldn't bother me. But if it was someone over the age of 10 or 12...
I think you need to correct the 4-year-old or the 10–12-year-old's won't know any better.
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I brought this up in a thread a few months ago. It seems to be people under 30 or 40 who do it most. It may have started as a regional thing, but it’s nation wide fad now. It doesn’t bother me, but it seems lazy and I hold people who do it in lower regard. They don’t seem like serious people to me.

On the other hand there is a presenter on a podcast “Gastropod” who pronounces “T” very precisely and it is a bit disconcerting. While most of the people I know pronounce “water” with a soft “T” or almost like a “d” and as one syllable, she uses a hard “T” and makes it two syllables.
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I think you need to correct the 4-year-old or the 10–12-year-old's won't know any better.
I don't think that's the case. Maybe if they're still at it when they're 6 or 7. But most kids seem to mispronounce a bunch of stuff when they are first learning to speak, I suspect, because they are learning. I think most kids as they get better, hear what folks around them are saying and mimic what they hear. So as long as your pronunciation is correct and they converse with you or others that correctly pronounce, I think most kids self correct. It probably varies some person to person. Some folks are better/more naturally mimic based on hearing than others.
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I brought this up in a thread a few months ago. It seems to be people under 30 or 40 who do it most. It may have started as a regional thing, but it’s nation wide fad now. It doesn’t bother me, but it seems lazy and I hold people who do it in lower regard. They don’t seem like serious people to me.
Yep, accents and/or dialect variations of language can/does certainly impact our impression of people.

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On the other hand there is a presenter on a podcast “Gastropod” who pronounces “T” very precisely and it is a bit disconcerting. While most of the people I know pronounce “water” with a soft “T” or almost like a “d” and as one syllable, she uses a hard “T” and makes it two syllables.
Interesting. I occasionally hear that sort of thing. It's interesting. We (the missus) watch a fair number of British shows and occasionally Oz or NZ based stuff, and hearing the differences is interesting to me.

I think Zeke actually has some formal education background in this area and has made an interesting post or two going into some specifics over the years.
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I studied linguistics a bit but I'm old and less able to discourse these days.

What I don't like is the comeback of "up talk." 50 year olds are doing it. They probably did that in their teens but I think it went out of style for awhile because it slapped an identity on the speaker.

II mean like can you say like Valley Girl^^^^?

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