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2 injured in crash in Idaho "no speed limit event"

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a61663707/two-injured-in-high-speed-porsche-crash-during-no-speed-limit-runs-at-charity-event/

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Two people were injured during a crash in the Sun Valley Tour de Force driving event on Saturday, according to event organizers. The incident occurred during sanctioned "no speed limit" runs over a 3.2-mile section of state highway in Sawtooth National Recreation Area in Idaho.

A Porsche 911 crashed at high speed near the end of the closed "no speed limit" section, according to social media videos and reporting from the Idaho Mountain Express. Footage of the crash shared on social media shows the car suddenly veering off its path and rolling several times. Following Tour de Force events over the weekend were canceled, and the Blaine County Sheriff's Office closed Highway 75 for over an hour to address the crash.

"There was an incident at Sun Valley Tour de Force this morning," Sun Valley Tour de Force posted on Facebook at 10:08 am on Saturday. "We are grateful to our first responders and safety team for their immediate action."

"Yesterday was a difficult day for all involved in Sun Valley Tour de Force. We would like to thank everyone who has been so helpful and considerate during the past 27 hours," wrote the official account on Facebook. "We are in communication with the injured participants and are sending loving thoughts and prayers to their family and friends."

The Sun Valley Tour de Force was started in 2018 by Maya Blix and Whitney Slade as part of their Intrepid Events nonprofit organization. The weekend's events, which include a car show, sponsored events, live auction fundraiser, live entertainment, and scenic drives in addition to the high-speed runs, raise funds for local nonprofits. The 2022 event raised $600,000 for The Hunger Coalition and saw 24 out of 48 drivers in the high-speed event hit 200-mph-plus speeds. The all-time speed record at the event is 253.01 mph, set by a Bugatti Chiron.

At this time, the Blaine County Sheriff's Office has declined to release the names of the affected individuals or additional information on the crash.
Prayers out to those involved or impacted.

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Prayers out to those involved or impacted.


Can't they make fireworks any safer??
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^^^ no airbags?
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Holy siht, that looks like a turbo Cab? I wonder how fast was that going, 150-170?
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Gawd I hope they are ok. No airbag deployment, doors ripped off, that windshield frame bent like that. Doesn’t look favourable. I hope they stayed in the car.

993 Turbo S Cab. I guess the rollover protection did deploy. There is chatter in Reddit from those that were there / saw it. It was the owner and his nephew. I hope that family is ok and they make a full recovery.
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So to do the speed event, do you just sign a waiver and put your foot down? Or do they require a full cage, harness, Hans, tech inspection and other safety measures like a legitimate rally/race?
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why the sudden veer? Tire? Brake grab? Guess it matters not at this point. But does look like something failed.
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Supposedly a tire blew out, at somewhere close to 190 mph. Not sure how people knew, but that's what I read.

Turbo Cab?! I guess you're doomed at that speed, no matter what, but I certainly would have wanted more protection around me in event of a misadventure like that.
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I also wonder why they would let there be a passenger in an unlimited speed run?
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Word has it that it was a blowout. That begs the question - how old were the tires? What was their condition?

To answer Curt's question, I rather suspect there is even less of a safety inspection than we see at a DE day. None of our local clubs allow cabs of any kind to participate in our track days unless they have some form of aftermarket rollover protection. The exception is our local PCA chapter, who allow Boxsters with factory roll hoops, but no one else will even allow that. They must have additional aftermarket rollover protection.

Anyway, that said, prayers for them and their families. They are just out to have some fun and support a worthwhile charity. No one deserves this.
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Word has it that it was a blowout. That begs the question - how old were the tires? What was their condition?

To answer Curt's question, I rather suspect there is even less of a safety inspection than we see at a DE day. None of our local clubs allow cabs of any kind to participate in our track days unless they have some form of aftermarket rollover protection. The exception is our local PCA chapter, who allow Boxsters with factory roll hoops, but no one else will even allow that. They must have additional aftermarket rollover protection.

Anyway, that said, prayers for them and their families. They are just out to have some fun and support a worthwhile charity. No one deserves this.
Yup, PCA allows any Porsche production car… I was running a DE 14 years ago and as such had to coach in the 550 speedster because nobody else would. Terrifying drum brakes, lap belts and banjo steering wheel…
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Just last month I got to drive on Talladega Super Speedway. It was a follow the leader thing, and my wife got to ride in the car. No helmets needed. At 100 I still had to steer up into the banking and it was a decent amount of effort to stay on the banking. At 125, it was totally neutral, and it was the first time above 90 I did not hear slow down! from my wife.

I have year old Continental Extreme Sport tires rated for 186 MPH. My 85 will never get close to that speed. I had a full inspection for the upcoming DE I was to do the next day. It passed with compliments on the car's mechanical and cosmetic condition. And Barber Motorsports is more fun than going in circles at 125.
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I can see both sides of the issue. First, if one wants to drive at 150mph+ with no helmet, cage, etc. on a closed public road where others are not in danger, why not? Not illegal to assess one's personal risk differently than others. But from an organizer's standpoint (and even, possibly, the State Highway Department standpoint), even the most tightly worded waiver would seem to be only a small hurdle to jump for a creative and determined attorney.
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Talk about free balling it?
Some are just naïve to the safety equipment required to survive an accident at those speeds.
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Yup, PCA allows any Porsche production car… I was running a DE 14 years ago and as such had to coach in the 550 speedster because nobody else would. Terrifying drum brakes, lap belts and banjo steering wheel…
Not quite right, at least at Potomac region. Yes you can run a production car, but there are rules. I was chief steward for a time and helped with tech for DE cars. The requirement was to have your car teched by certified folks or bring it to our tech session where knowledgeable Porsche folks would do the tech. We were sticklers for brake fluid age, tire stamps (date of production), brake pads, front suspension bits, etc. At grid there was someone to walk the line to check lug nut tightness. We never had an incident due to component failure.
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In a friggin cab at those speeds!? Having had a tree jump out at me on a public road I surely don't have the high ground on this issue but holy crap man triple digits in a cab on a public road is just too much risk for me.

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