A Reminder if Planning a Flight

[jhynesrockmtn]

I have had my real ID drivers license for a few years. My wife doesn't yet. I also have a passport card in addition to my passport and have carried that as a backup ID in the US when flying. She looked it up and that card does not work for air travel. Wtf? I thought the passport card worked as an alternative to your passport between US, Mexico and Canada. But apparently only for travel by land and sea. I have been telling my wife ti get the updated drivers license for a while. Guess she will now have to actually do it. And I will need to carry my full passport on every trip.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^
Why would anyone refuse a facial scanner, unless they were a known problem?

no idea, global entry is so smooth now, I don't even need my passport when returning to US. If you have a license or passport, big gov already has your picture anyway.

[jrj3rd]

Originally Posted by berettafan

say what? what's a real id? we need one to fly? drivers licenses have been cheapened by the states to the point they aren't good enough?

Maryland DL has been RealID compliant for a few years. You should be good.

[URY914]

DL, passport, DNA sample and surrendering first born coming next.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by jrj3rd

Maryland DL has been RealID compliant for a few years. You should be good.

As in everyone's DL is a Real ID? Here, in MI, they give you a choice. Some older people plan on never flying again. A reg. DL is cheaper.

[Arizona_928]

[onewhippedpuppy]

I have a real ID, TSA Precheck, Global Entry, CAC, and a security clearance. Not many secrets between me and Uncle Sam.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I have a real ID, TSA Precheck, Global Entry, CAC, and a security clearance. Not many secrets between me and Uncle Sam.

I've renewed my TSA Precheck once...they last 5 years. I'm a year away from the next renewal...not sure if I will do it again.
So many using it that the lines are almost equal...plus it costs $70

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[A930Rocket]

Originally Posted by Paul T

no idea, global entry is so smooth now, I don't even need my passport when returning to US. If you have a license or passport, big gov already has your picture anyway.

I applied for global entry a couple months ago and I’m still waiting for the next step….

[wilnj]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

Some people have liberty and do not like to be govern by tyrants.

Does your DL not have your photo on it? Do you not think you’re on camera from the moment you set foot on airport property.

There’s probably a 10 year old hacker that can find your first tax return.

The concern shouldn’t be giving up that information but rather focusing on what people that have it can do with it.

[Paul T]

Originally Posted by stevej37

I've renewed my TSA Precheck once...they last 5 years. I'm a year away from the next renewal...not sure if I will do it again.
So many using it that the lines are almost equal...plus it costs $70

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The lines vary greatly by airport in my experience. In some airports, it’s a lifesaver.

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Originally Posted by wilnj

does your dl not have your photo on it? Do you not think you’re on camera from the moment you set foot on airport property.

There’s probably a 10 year old hacker that can find your first tax return.

The concern shouldn’t be giving up that information but rather focusing on what people that have it can do with it.

+1

[ErVikingo]

I dont understand the big deal with Real ID. I renewed my license and it came back as a real ID. All i had to do was confirm no address change or organ donor status (like on any prior renewal).

At least here in free Florida is a non issue.

Kids in college will have issues with fake IDs ....

As to facial recognition, your face was most certainly already digitized when they processed your DL, passport etc or just from security cameras.

[masraum]

Texas is one of those states where the only option for ID is Real ID. When you renew your DL or request a new one, you get a Real ID (and I think that's been in place for ~5 years). That certainly simplifies stuff for us.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Paul T

The lines vary greatly by airport in my experience. In some airports, it’s a lifesaver.

Same here. It’s worth the money.

[stevej37]

Yeah...I will most likely renew the Precheck again.


The last two times I've flown...been lucky to get jets that load and unload with the front and rear door.
Makes a big difference in time...goes a lot smoother. I wish they would all do that.

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[Arizona_928]

I don’t trust the tsa database. Watching a recently married pregnant chick become flagged and not allowed through security because her picture in the database not matching the ID… wait, i thought they purged the pictures after they’re taken?… hmm

[stevej37]

It was very empty in the TSA line and as I was loading the plastic tray with my stuff, the guy asked if I had any metal on me. I answered "just in me...a rod from hip to knee" He directed me over to a different detector and I went thru and then they wanded me after I walked thru.

I've had that titanium rod inside my femur bone for over 7 years now and this was the first time they did that. And I fly about 7-10 rt's a year.

[Arizona_928]

Ti and steel in my spine and never set off the metal detector.

The millimeter scanner is an interesting tool. Complete mapping of a body plus internal. Radiation isn’t cool either. Yeah. Touch me in the closed room mr. tsa wanna be super soldier, i refuse the scanner.

[wilnj]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

I don’t trust the tsa database. Watching a recently married pregnant chick become flagged and not allowed through security because her picture in the database not matching the ID… wait, i thought they purged the pictures after they’re taken?… hmm

Coming back from Mexico with our 16yo daughter and her friend a few years ago, we got similarly hung up.

Her passport was already nearly 5 years old so the computer rejected the picture on her passport of an 11yo child as a match for the young woman she now was.

We got sent to a room waiting for a supervisor’s review. It went up the chain of uniforms until the head guy in a suit was called over. His solution was to ask her if she had any photos on her phone from when she was 11. Really? Asking a modern day, attractive young woman if she has any selfies?

She scrolled through her phone and showed some pics from that time frame. He checked the date stamp and signed off on her entry.

Of course we had missed our connecting flight but that was just one of the many obstacles thrown at us on that trip.

It was the only time I’d bought trip insurance and good thing too. I filed a $2500 claim on that one.