There's a reason for the saying "No good deed goes unpunished"

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by stevej37

You need an electric chain saw.

...for lending.

I thought about buying a DeWalt battery powered saw. We bought one for my dad and I was really impressed with it. But I'm sure if I loaned it out, the battery would come back broken.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by john70t

WAG: He went out and bought a container of straight gas. no oil.
You might be able to un-f it by removing the plug and with a little 2-cycle oil or trans fluid in the cylinder pull it through until it turns again.

I brought him my gas can with mixed fuel in it just to make sure it got mixed gas. I spoke with my nephew who rebuilt a saw like mine. He said that when the saw gets hot it can cause a vacuum leak that makes it hard to start (I got mine back hard to start), once it does start it won't idle (mine wouldn't idle) and at WOT it'll run fine but due to the leak it'll run lean and overheat. I think I've solved the mystery. I might try dumping some trans fluid in it and see what happens. Hopefully my new saw will last as long or longer than this one did.

[ben parrish]

Borrowed a neighbors side grinder years ago to cut some manufactured stone around my fireplace to set a mantle. The amount of dust was epic; said side grinder ingested the dust in large gulps and it fried the motor. I went to Home Depot the next day and bought a new Dewalt grinder (bought myself one also) and took him the burnt out saw and the new one in the box. He protested saying the one I borrowed was on its last leg. I insisted on replacing it and he reluctantly accepted the new one. He later told me that, at the moment I gave him the new grinder, he knew what type of man, neighbor and friend I was. Another time, I borrowed his backhoe and the steering ram blew it’s seal and wouldn’t turn. I removed the ram and took it to a hydraulic shop and had it rebuilt. When I took the backhoe back, he noticed the new paint on the ram and just shook his head…said he had been nursing that seal for years with conditioner. I simply looked at it as the right thing to do…it worked when I got it and it had to work when I returned it.

[LWJ]

Absolutely!

I did a favor for a guy through work. Now the org is stiffing me. I never got paid as it was below our threshold. Probably owe $6000 for doing this favor. Arg.

[dad911]

Originally Posted by stevej37

You need an electric chain saw.

...for lending.

Only chainsaw I could find (not sold out) in Florida for hurricane IAN cleanup. My gas saws were in NJ. It did not disappoint, I cut down and cut up that tree, and it almost did it on a single charge. Bought another for NJ, haven't used gas since.

I had some pros taking down some very large trees, at first they laughed at the 20v cordless, but they were happy to borrow it when they climbed the tree to delimb it. Wouldn't surprise me if they bought some electrics.

Plus electric tools are much easier on these old bones.

[stevej37]

^^^ That's the same one I have...really like it. With a 5 amp battery in it, I've never run out using it.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by cabmandone

I brought him my gas can with mixed fuel in it just to make sure it got mixed gas. I spoke with my nephew who rebuilt a saw like mine. He said that when the saw gets hot it can cause a vacuum leak that makes it hard to start (I got mine back hard to start), once it does start it won't idle (mine wouldn't idle) and at WOT it'll run fine but due to the leak it'll run lean and overheat. I think I've solved the mystery. I might try dumping some trans fluid in it and see what happens. Hopefully my new saw will last as long or longer than this one did.

A vacuum leak causes the chainsaw to get hot because it's running lean, not the other way around.

[GH85Carrera]

I have borrowed my buddy's old F-150 pickup to haul some garden soil for my wife. Too much weight for my El Camino, so borrow his truck. It mostly sits and is not driven a lot. I dumped in a can of Berrymans B-12 in the tank and returned it with a full tank of gas, and I hosed down the bed likely for the first time in many years. I also re-glued his inside rear view mirror that had fallen off months before I borrowed it.

[greglepore]

Well, tiller came home in one piece, but with 25 ft of dog chain wrapped around it. Likely she didn't know she hit it, and she def didn't have the angle grinder to cut it off. I'll have to do it. Too bad I didn't see it before I unhooked the 3 pt.

[DavidI]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Borrowed a neighbors side grinder years ago to cut some manufactured stone around my fireplace to set a mantle. The amount of dust was epic; said side grinder ingested the dust in large gulps and it fried the motor. I went to Home Depot the next day and bought a new Dewalt grinder (bought myself one also) and took him the burnt out saw and the new one in the box. He protested saying the one I borrowed was on its last leg. I insisted on replacing it and he reluctantly accepted the new one. He later told me that, at the moment I gave him the new grinder, he knew what type of man, neighbor and friend I was. Another time, I borrowed his backhoe and the steering ram blew it’s seal and wouldn’t turn. I removed the ram and took it to a hydraulic shop and had it rebuilt. When I took the backhoe back, he noticed the new paint on the ram and just shook his head…said he had been nursing that seal for years with conditioner. I simply looked at it as the right thing to do…it worked when I got it and it had to work when I returned it.

Ben, this is fantastic! I applaud people like you who do the right thing, David

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

A vacuum leak causes the chainsaw to get hot because it's running lean, not the other way around.

Right, the saw got warm during operation that caused a seal to deform allowing unmetered air which causes a lean condition and the saw melted down. The reason the saw got warm and deformed the seal is due to improper airflow caused by a lack of maintenance on my part. I don't run the saw for amount of time my friend did nor do I cut material as large as the material he was cutting. Most of my cutting is on old dry wood and limbs that fall into the creek at my woods. Before I'll cut a large log, I'll just grab it with my grapple on my machine and move the whole tree out of the way.

So the lesson here isn't so much that no good deed goes unpunished as much as clean the saw every once in a while. Although, had it been me using the saw, it likely wouldn't have gotten hot due to how I use the saw.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Borrowed a neighbors side grinder years ago to cut some manufactured stone around my fireplace to set a mantle. The amount of dust was epic; said side grinder ingested the dust in large gulps and it fried the motor. I went to Home Depot the next day and bought a new Dewalt grinder (bought myself one also) and took him the burnt out saw and the new one in the box. He protested saying the one I borrowed was on its last leg. I insisted on replacing it and he reluctantly accepted the new one. He later told me that, at the moment I gave him the new grinder, he knew what type of man, neighbor and friend I was. Another time, I borrowed his backhoe and the steering ram blew it’s seal and wouldn’t turn. I removed the ram and took it to a hydraulic shop and had it rebuilt. When I took the backhoe back, he noticed the new paint on the ram and just shook his head…said he had been nursing that seal for years with conditioner. I simply looked at it as the right thing to do…it worked when I got it and it had to work when I returned it.

That right there, is the bottom line and the measure of a man.

[Steve Carlton]

So, some good deeds go rewarded with new Husqvarna 445s, and “Mean Nicks” are getting turkey pot pies for Thanksgiving.

[cabmandone]

Any pot pie with poultry is good luck for the Buckeyes during football season. If they have beef that's bad luck. I've got this down to a science.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by speeder

He probably put straight gas in it

That was the first thing that popped into my mind as well.

[911 Rod]

I have lots of stuff and hate lending it for the same reasons.
Same as borrowing stuff. Just my luck ....

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Borrowed a neighbors side grinder years ago to cut some manufactured stone around my fireplace to set a mantle. The amount of dust was epic; said side grinder ingested the dust in large gulps and it fried the motor. I went to Home Depot the next day and bought a new Dewalt grinder (bought myself one also) and took him the burnt out saw and the new one in the box. He protested saying the one I borrowed was on its last leg. I insisted on replacing it and he reluctantly accepted the new one. He later told me that, at the moment I gave him the new grinder, he knew what type of man, neighbor and friend I was. Another time, I borrowed his backhoe and the steering ram blew it’s seal and wouldn’t turn. I removed the ram and took it to a hydraulic shop and had it rebuilt. When I took the backhoe back, he noticed the new paint on the ram and just shook his head…said he had been nursing that seal for years with conditioner. I simply looked at it as the right thing to do…it worked when I got it and it had to work when I returned it.

Just say the word, and my 911 is yours for a month. Or six.

[red 928]

I don't ask to borrow tools and I don't ask friends if I can use their pickups or to help me move, and I expect the same courtesy in return.
But if a friend couldn't afford to rent a tool or a pickup or a moving company,
I would pay for it on their behalf without batting an eye.

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by cabmandone

I loaned my Husqvarna chainsaw to a friend.

Darn. And it was a Husqvarna

A common mistake that kills chainsaws is someone picks up the container of 2-stroke fuel from the garage and fills the chainsaw without shaking it to remix the oil into the gasoline.

I lent my sister a four stroke lawn mower and some months later she phoned to say it wouldn't go. I asked a few questions including had she been checking and topping up the oil. She said "Oil?"

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

A common mistake that kills chainsaws is someone picks up the container of 2-stroke fuel from the garage and fills the chainsaw without shaking it to remix the oil into the gasoline.

Yep. First thing I do before the lid comes off the gas container is shake it around pretty good to get it mixed. I've always done this with my mix gas but in the last several years I've had people tell me that ethanol fuel will separate from the oil. I don't know if there's any truth to it.