If you don't like mine, there are 49 other states to choose from:D

If you read my follow up post, you might feel a little better.

I hereby take back everything I said in my original post. I further submit that the 914 is an awesome sports car, worthy of the highest respect, and quite cute if it still has paint on it. Driven properly, it will wax any other car on the track. Howzat?

Buy me dinner....

Re: The Porsche Wave-Ten Simple Rules
 

you folks do live in a dream world don't you.

87951

With all that said, I bring you the t-shirt. For sizing reference, I am 5' 9"---5' 10" with afro. I weigh 150. Not sure why that's relevant, I just don't want any unhappy customers. Ooops, too late...The shirt I'm wearing is a Medium. It feels a bit snug on me, especially since everything "pre-shrunk" that I've owned has always shrunk some more after washing. I'll be wearing a Large.
They're 10 dollars, shipping included in that cost. I don't make a dime on these, just to let the Porsche brotherhood know...
If you are planning to use it as an oil rag or wipe your A$$ with it, the shirts are five dollars, plus shipping, only available in small, to match the 911 winkie. :)


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1121824807.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1121824831.jpg

Please cease and desist....
 

All,

For those of you with short memories, the Porsche crest is copyrighted by Dr. Ing. h.c. F Porsche AG and its affilliate, Porsche Cars North America.

It is unlawful to sell anything with the Porsche crest without express permission of PCNA.

Offering such items for sale on this forum places Pelican Parts at risk for encouraging copyright infringement.

Cease and desist all talk of selling anything of the sort in public forums.

AFJuvat
Boxster, 964/993/996 Moderator

AFJuvat,

You're kinda flying off the handle aren't you? After 10 pages you're giving a cease and desist?

ianc

ianc,

You are correct, I am not a moderator on the 911 BBS. I am however, a Pelican user who enjoys this BBS, and a 911 owner. Therefore, I have every right to post on this BBS.

**Edit after user edited his post**

For the first 10 pages, there was no problem. The minute he posted the T-shirts for sale with a Porsche crest on the BBS, it became copyright infringement and put this BBS at risk.

AFJuvat

Wow...I just clicked on this thread after ignoring it for days. Personally, I wave at any 911/914/928/968/993 I see. All the others, I ignore. They're either driven by the clueless, the ornery, or rap stars who are packing heat. Your mileage may vary.

:D

The Porsche Lawyers’ Wave

Putting a Porsche logo on your web site—gets a polite letter from the law firm requesting its removal

Making hundreds of copies of PET and selling them on Ebay—gets a frothy letter demanding that Ebay ban you.

Naming your startup car magazine “Porsche”—gets 35 junior partners in Hugo Boss suits jumping up and down outside your office.

Printing the Porsche logo on something and selling it—gets you greased up with Lubro Moly and violated with a genuine Carrera GT piston by Frau Helga, the managing partner’s secretary. :D

AFJuvat,

Yeah, I see now that you watch over the 964 board and hence the edit. However, there have been at least a couple of checkins here by other Pelican employees, but nobody else has pulled the trigger yet. Since there has been talk of T-Shirts since the start, I figure Wayne would have stopped in long ago to put the hammer down if he really cared...

ianc

Someone else advised the poster earlier in the thread that the crest was a bozo no no...

Not sure but there was a guy that got a letter after he showed a Porsche tattoo....:eek:

I love you..you love me! - Barney
You like me, you like me, you really like me! - Sally Field
I'm OK, your OK - forgotten shrink?

Imagine if you read everyday about how your 83 SC sucked or that your 993 was a POS and wasn't worthy of being a Porsche. After a while, it would be funny one day and not so funny the next depending on your mood.

I flash at all Porsches and think to myself it's their problem if they don't "get it". Maybe I just want them to drive down the road and think.."Why was that guy flashing his lights at me? Is their a cop over the next hill? Or perhaps it's like a wink where maybe I know something they don't (vague Burt Lancaster quote - Field of Dreams).

Much ado about nothing.

OMG complete meltdown. Google pls cache.

Doug

The shirts will be made without the crest.*

*pm me

Glenn,
You have a PM - PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS POSSABLE!

As for the logo - maybe someone can spoof one? It has to have less than 60% identifiable pattern recognition in order not to infringe trademark and logo rights - I am sure one of more creative fellas could have a bit-o-fun with it...

Parody is protected....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1121831156.jpg

I doubt that the infringement comments have been made by anyone with a law degree, so I wouldn't worry. IP is a whole nuther area, and anyone who really truly knows IP rules and regs wouldn't be wasting their time putting in a "warning" on a BBS like this. And if you don't know what IP stands for, get off the issue. :rolleyes: :p

Christian: You've got an Afro???? Missed that. I'll take my shirt in a Large, to match my penis size, Kermit's speed around the AX course, and the size of my mortgage.

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I think the shirt's great. Thanks for including my edits. Hopefully see you at Potter's this weekend.

larry

SmileWavy http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1121840077.jpg

Well, after reading most of the 12 pages of nonsense, I can see that Porsche snobbery is alive and well. :rolleyes:

Funny thing is, most of the folks coming up with their "who not to wave to" lists are the ones that claim those who own non-air-cooled 911's are immature and childish. Pot, meet kettle.

People who advocate this type of stupidity, whether in jest or not, give Porsche owners a bad reputation. Too bad there isn't a test to ensure that a Porsche owner is simply a Porsche enthusiast prior to said owner purchasing a Porsche.

Here's a graduitous shot of my WATER COOLED, FRONT ENGINED 944S2 to pollute the waters here:
http://gallery.rennlist.com/albums/z...ck/Z_vir_a.jpg
I never passed a 911 I didn't like. I believe all three cars that are behind me are of the air-cooled variety.

-Z-man

Come on Z, tell the truth, you were the pace car. Within 8 seconds your windshield had bits of rubber on it and you could barely choke out a cuss word due to the smoked tires...

Nice to see the snobbery is alive and well. Better than ranting about the war and so forth...

I wave at cops!!!!

That is f'n funny as sheit.:D



11. tractors Just spit out the window and then smile big enough that they can see the tobacco stuck in your teeth.

I like it, or we could replace the skull with the "Hawaiian Peace Sign"

Oh #$%&, did I just upset some Hawaiians???

I Have just place the first order with Gassy for five shirts so I can use them to wipe my $%%, remove grease, pick up dog
#$%@ or maybe even wear to a PCA event!

Glenn

A few years ago, folks decided to resurrect the "Porsche Flash." Many Porsche related websites have joined this campaign and have posted the following words:
I have also heard rumors that in some of the Porsche owner's manuals also had a blurb about waving at fellow Porsche owners.

In either case, there is no mention of specific models.

If you wish to put anything on a T-shirt, perhaps you should follow their lead.

Regards,
-Z.

I like them all, in any form. They are ALL great cars and where made for a reason and for there time period. But I do dislike some 911 owners thinking they are somehow the only true Porsche owners.

Have orginally owning a 1983 944 back in 85, I loved it. Nothing could touch it handling wise and made good power for it's day at 150hp (seems low now!). When it was time to move on I looked at 2 cars, a 1979 911SC and 1991 944S2. The S2 came home! No comparison, the SC seemed like a toy after driving the S2! But I still love ALL Porsches! So it does kinda chap my _ss when you wave at a 911 guy and they ingnore ya, when they and I both know their older 911 doesn't stand a chance against a chipped M030 S2. ....or maybe it's that older 911 air-cooled guys can't swallow the fact that there are MANY 4 cylinder front engine water cooled Porsches running around that can clean thier clock - with ease I might add.

True Porsche fans know what each car can do. There are 944 Turbos running around with 400+hp, these are not poorly built Audi/VW cars and do deserve some respect. Not too many 911 owners can claim they can touch a 400hp 951, true? Heck my friends 2001 Boxster is 10 years newer and has 11 LESS HP than my S2 (217 vs 228)!

Again, I'm not slamming 911 guys. I just wish they would have some respect for non-911 owners. I feel even worse for the way 914 924 guys get treated, they are fun cars! And if where not for the 944 chances are high Porsche would not exist today. The 944 was also Car and Driver 10 Best in 1983, 1984, 1985, and 1986!

I guess I have kinda started to favor the 924/44/68 line these days and have gone somewhat backwards in restoring a 1980 931 Turbo S (924 Turbo S) and plan to replace the S2 with a cab 968. Maybe someday a 911, but no real reason too unless I really want that wave back.....

And not all 911 guys are this way. Several times I've had 911 and 911 Turbo guys wave at me first when driving the S2 and the 924 Turbo S, and I'm sure it's because they KNOW the car.

Can't we all just get along and have respect for ALL Porsche owners.

My rules. Wave at ALL Porsches!

91 944 S2 (M030 Club Sport)
84 944 (rare non sunroof model)
80 931 Turbo S w/LSD (924 Carrera GT rep)

Someday I will have a 911, and I'll still wave to all Porsches. Wave at me, don't wave at me, I don't care.

I'm sad to see that it takes so much effort to just wave at ALL Porsches that you:
a. see the Porsche on the road
b. make an effort to recognize the year
c. make sure the model isn't one that offends you
d. consciously recall your little list so you know what to do
e. take appropriate action (according to list, of course)
f. ***** when the other car doesn't return with an enthusiastic wave, becuase, after all, you drive a 911

It takes NO effort, just flippin' wave! There is _nothing_ to be lost by waving at an 'inferior' Porsche, or even the newbies and 'posers' driving boxsters.

Why hasn't this been moved to OT?

Z-man, come on dood, be cool and stick your arm out the window and let them by ;)
J/K

I wave to people that are OT....

Why? So they hold me up in the next set of turns?? :eek:

J/K back at ya!
-Z.

SOMEBODY CLOSE THIS THREAD PLEASE!!

No, it's kinda fun actually.

Except for those that take it a little too seriously. But there are always those types around... :(

ianc

Saab owners are far more likely to wave at each other. I had an ol 99 and Saabs of all sorts would wave. I wanted to continue the spirit with the Volvo so I would flash other Volvo owners the piece sign thinking that the V my fingers made would show unionship. Nothing happened. I guess I'm not a trend setter or Volvo owners are doofis's!

I do see Porsche owners all the time on the road when I have the Targa out and all of them are very freindly - most turn out to be members of the PCA and because I manger the mag they say they recognize me - I think they are just being nice.

This is too funny.
There are actually people out there in the same world I live in that take this stuff seriously. Take the time to identify a car before you wave?
Were you BORN with a wedgy?

We wave at everybody. We talk to all the PCA members at meets, nomatter what they drive. It's all good it's all Porsche and it's all appreciation for all efforts automotive.

I just want a T-shirt that sais "Bring Back the Flash" and has a girl with big boobs on it.

Now can we PLEASE use this 911 Technical Forum for something technical?

Technically speaking . ..How do I mount a spring to my dash?

I have this "hand-on-spring" idea . . . intended to rock back and forth in the front window, as I drive . ..always ensuring no one is left out of the wave-parade.

Once perfected I'll sell millions . . billions MUHAHAhahaha

:rolleyes:

Actually, I just scaned the threads on the first page of the forum. This thread had greater technical content than a lot of the others. Unless of course "Show Me Your Door Sills", "Guess the new ride", "Garage Floor Paint?" and a squeaky parts cleaner are technical topics. SmileWavy

Make it like one of those hula girls or bobble heads, so it's just a plastic hand that either bounces or shakes like a bobble.

Updated Wave
 

The Porsche Wave

1. Arrogant air-cooled outdated 911 owners – Wave, then pull over and b_ow each other. (Pulling over is a nice gesture to get out of the way of the faster S2, 951, 968, 928 and 914/6 owners getting ready to pass you.)

2. Everything else with a Porsche Badge (Including NON-Arrogant 911 owners) – Wave and have nice day while enjoying your car. (These owners respect each other and understand that ALL Porsches ARE Porsches and we ALL decended from some form of VW or Audi.)

Seems simple!

To Glenndeweirdt: Bring your 83 911SC over and I'll show you first hand where YOU stand against a well prepared M030 944S2 - you won't like loosing but maybe you will gain some respect the next time a S2 or 968 passes by. Cool? I only have 25hp on ya, better brakes, better handling, etc!

Danger
 

NO, no, no!
. . it can't be "bounce or shake". That would be aaalll wrong.

I'm mean could you imagine the confusion? Some teener might get a 'shake' and be happy with that as a "wave" . . . until it happens to "Bounce" for some SC guy . .which would clearly be seen as a "high-five" . .and clearly be bettering the simple "wave" had for the teener.

At which point, the teeners would start whip'n their long shlongs around!

Hey . . . it's only fun until someone loses an eye.

:cool:

DIE thread DIE . ...

Ya know... its funny how people always find a way to seperate themselves. Thats the problem these days. Recently I attended "waterfest" the big vw/audi festival in NJ and there really wasnt any of that going on. It was one of the best days of my life. Thousands of people grouped together with a common passion. The drive down from NH was amazing. We were in a group of about 25 different types of vw's, audi's, and BMW's all driving together in a line. There were corrado's, rabbits, scirrocos, R32's, 20th a.e GTI's, 16 valve GTI's, Jettas from every year, vanagons, bugs, you name it. We owned the road.

So it got me thinking....Why arent porsche people more like that. It doesnt matter what kind of porsche you own. Your part of the group and you deserve a wave, a bow, and a salute if you ask me. You know I think one of the reasons I have always felt so passionate about cars and driving is the people that you meet along the way. Its the feeling that your part of something bigger than yourself or anyone as an individual. And you know what...we're the PORSCHE group. So instead of trying to constantly seperate people into stereotypical groups why dont we try to keep the passion alive. Drive them, take care of them, and meet a lot of great people along the way that share that same passion. Next time you see a porsche on the road...give a wave. What do you have to lose?