Looting and my Grandpa - Page 10

widebody911 · widebody911's Garage

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Originally posted by Mule
As the boat got close, home boy starts to pull his pistol out to "boatjack" my friend. However when the .45 slug from my friend's pistol strikes him in the chest his plan falls apart as he ends up flipping backwards over the peak of the roof. The next OG ups his pistol with the movie star ghetto gangster sideways position. To quote my buddy, you can't hit an elephant like that. My friend puts 2 .45s in his chest. I said "what did you do then?" "We went on to the next house" he said.

Did this really happen? I'm not much of a gun nut or anything, but if this is really the way it went down, then I'd have to say 'good show!'

johnco · 05:20 AM

speeder,
no, it hasn't flooded where I am. We actually only had minor damage this time. Andrew was a different story though. Our problems here are nothing compared to N.O. sorry if I gave the impression they were. our problems now are more of a supply thing from the influx of people from N.O. and surrounding areas and the fact that everything comes from N.O. The right storm hitting the right place, and we would have the same problems though. we don't have the pumps to clear out the water, only little slips of land surrounded by swamps, protected by levees all around. in the image, the light green we're sitting on is 8ft above sealevel. the darker green is swamp

Rikao4 · 09-02-2005, 05:48 AM

Hi John,glad to see you on,
Mule, tell your friends to stay safe,
rika

gaijindabe · 09-02-2005, 05:55 AM

Interviewed on several network morning news shows, Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, blamed emergency assistance delivery problems on "the total lack of communications, the inability to hear and have good intelligence on the ground about what was actually occurring there."

Brown appeared the morning after the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin, charged that administration officials "don't have a clue" about what's going on in the devastated city that long has been among the nation's premier tourist attractions.

"People are getting the help they need," Brown asserted on NBC's "Today" show. "This is an ongoing disaster. This disaster didn't just end when Katrina left."

But Brown also acknowledged that little in the government's preparedness plan took into account the likelihood of lawlessness in such dire straits.

"Before the hurricane struck I came down here personally and rode the storm out in Baton Rouge," he said. "We had all of our rescue teams, the medical teams, pre-deployed, ready to go. ... The lawlessness, the crime that is occurring, did surprise us."

Appearing on ABC's "Good Morning America," the FEMA director said he "never thought I'd see" the lawlessness that has overtaken the city and interrupted emergency relief efforts. "It's heartbreaking and very, very frustrating to me from a broad operational perspective," he said.

"What we have right now is a situation where, with my having access to the military, bringing in the National Guard troops, securing the area, we'll be able to continue the relief efforts that we have been doing over the last several days," Brown added. "We'll be able to ramp those up and continue the evacuation."

RallyJon · 09-02-2005, 05:59 AM

That Ray Nagin guy is a hoot. What a moron. On the one hand we have... Rudy Giuliani. And on the other hand... Ray Nagin.

targa911S · 09-02-2005, 06:16 AM

And they didn't think there would be looting??? PLEASE!!!! To not consider that in the plan was just stupid. Where do they think they are Sri Lanka?

Rikao4 · 09-02-2005, 06:39 AM

what you have is pi@@poor planning,no leadership,lesson's not learned or ignored,
rika

turbo6bar · 09-02-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by targa911S
And they didn't think there would be looting??? PLEASE!!!! To not consider that in the plan was just stupid. Where do they think they are Sri Lanka?

Anyone recall if there was widespread looting when the tsunamis hit SE Asia? Z-Man made a good point in another thread about the relative peace in NYC on 9/11. What is different in NO?

targa911S · 09-02-2005, 06:44 AM

Not that i heard of...that's my point. of course there was not a lot left either.

gaijindabe · 09-02-2005, 06:48 AM

After 9/11 people were in too much shock to misbehave. Crime actually went down. Totally different situations. The World Trade Center was geographically a small area..

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

Mule, that'a an amazing story.

And it syncs with what some other folks ahve been saying about NO: that people were shooting to *bring* rescuers to them. Now, I don't know what it's like to have no food/water/sanitation for 3 days, but I can't imagine it would make me think of a gun as a signal flare.

herman maire · 09-02-2005, 07:10 AM

I did not read the entire tread, and when I say this I just
want everybody to know that I have a lot of really really good BLACK freinds and im a white boy so theres nothing racist in what im saying just my observation.

Every time I tune in to CNN and they show all the looters young or old, and the huge # of people in groupes that decided to either stay during Katrina or where unable to
leave all seem to be Black with the odd White dude.
It almost looks like Africa or something. Where are all the White dudes.
Or are the southern states just like this where white people are the minority.

Do you guys think there some people who decided to stay back, with the intent of looting and getting a great deal on that big screen TV.

What do you guys think can any of you relate to what im seeing?

artplumber · 07:39 AM

I think two thirds of the city is black.

The lawlessness is more than anyone expected and is having the expected impression elsewhere...the holier than thou's are coming out news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050902/ts_nm/weather_katrina_reaction_dc

Rikao4 · 09-02-2005, 07:36 AM

okay going out on this limb.."they left when told to do so", and
had the means,sense,and most likely feared what would/did happen in the aftermath.Agree with you looks like downtown Moga,or Dafur right now. and that is what the world is seeing
Was overseas when "riots where happening back here in 80's, made me ashamed, and angry,this brush will paint (stain) America for a long time
rika

skipdup · 09-02-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
Mule, that'a an amazing story.

And it syncs with what some other folks ahve been saying about NO: that people were shooting to *bring* rescuers to them. Now, I don't know what it's like to have no food/water/sanitation for 3 days, but I can't imagine it would make me think of a gun as a signal flare.

Again with the wild excuses? What is it with you? They are shooting AT the rescuers!!! To kill them!!!! Why do you have such a hard time believing that?

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

I think if you are higher on the economic ladder, you have the sense the 'things will be taken care of.'

I think a lot of what we're seeing on TV (which is the 5% that the producers think will be the most sensational and dramatic) is a result of people not seeing authority in place, and not having any faith that help is coming.

skipdup · 09-02-2005, 07:49 AM

tech- the people I've talked to in the area, not the news, say it's exponentially WORSE than the news shows.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

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Originally posted by skipdup
tech- the people I've talked to in the area, not the news, say it's exponentially WORSE than the news shows.

It's much worse than Fox News, yes, but I've been watching CNN.

Fox (radio) was actually implying that all the Superdome residents had been evacuated -- yesterday.

skipdup · 09-02-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by techweenie
It's much worse than Fox News, yes, but I've been watching CNN.

Fox (radio) was actually implying that all the Superdome residents had been evacuated -- yesterday.

Whatever. Now you know what news I've been watching?

Wait, what's that I hear??? It must be AK-47's being used a flare guns.

- Skip

pwd72s · 09-02-2005, 08:10 AM

It seems to me that the net is doing a better job of news gathering than the network pros. I'll admit to clicking here first, leaving the TV mostly off. Is it true that SWAT teams are finally moving into NO? If so, maybe the junkie/looters are being handled. Better late than never, I guess.