This One should Light Some Fires...

[Rondinone]

$250,000,000,000 is totally outrageous. We as taxpayers should be screaming. If there were 1,000,000 displaced families, which there aren't, you could give each one $250,000 and tell them to start over someplace else.


Q: What's Bush's opinion on Roe vs. Wade?

A: He doesn't care how you got out of New Orleans!

[slakjaw]

That list is so dumb it makes me sick.

It would be like me makeing this comment.

Bush (a republican) has sent 2000 Americans to their death in a god damn desert!

WTF HOW can people sit here and make this a political thing??? I hope that the people who want to make this political and take shots and use the deaths to political advantage DIE! I really hope they all die. get killed murdered stabed choked whatever just get them off the planet

[Drago]

Originally posted by slakjaw
...I really hope they all die. get killed murdered stabed choked whatever just get them off the planet

Sounds like somebody needs to go suck a fag.

[}{arlequin]

Originally posted by Mule
Everybody I know took a sane, sensible approach to the storm and ended up safe and sound. So you think your getto dwelling welfare recipients would react better? Maybe but I doubt it.

Look, all i'm saying is that the people that ended up holed up in the dome etc. didn't just happen to stroll back into town DURING the storm. They also didn't do that AFTER the storm. So i think they stayed b/c they wanted to, or couldn't afford to move, weren't notified in a manner consistent w/ the type of danger, they were forgotten, left behind, stranded, ignored... whatever.

The point is, whatever was done it wasn't done in a manner that convinced/forced those people to seek safety. That to me means that it wasn't done well enough. The end result speaks for itself in this case. For some reason, many stayed when they shouldn't.

"everyone you know" is not really a good cross section of the popluation since you're sitting at a COMPUTER on a porsche OWNER/ENTHUSIAST board- spare me the point that it's "your peeps"

[techweenie]

Kind of a stupid list that would amuse people who only listened to the "right."

Anyone know what's been happening in Beaumont, TX? The right-biased media won't tell you. (see below)

But of course, even the Faux News people couldn't cover up the disaster of the Houston evacuation...

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Katrina Redux? Beaumont Paper Finds Federal Storm Failure in Texas

By E&P Staff

Published: September 25, 2005 9:50 PM ET
NEW YORK In Beaumont, Texas, claims that federal relief agencies learned their lessons from Hurricane Katrina and are on the ball in the aftermath of Hurricane Rita are apparently ringing hollow. The Beaumont (Tex.) Enterprise reported tonight that disaster response coordinators in the area hard hit by Rita say they are seeing the same foot-dragging federal response this weekend witnessed two weeks ago in New Orleans and Mississippi.

Jefferson County Judge Carl Griffith and other local leaders, "haggard after days of almost non-stop work with little sleep, pleaded with the federal government to get itself in a higher gear," the paper said. Griffith said he wanted to return services to residents who remain but that "it seems like they can't figure out how to get it done."

"There's a drastic shortage of generators in Beaumont to provide emergency power," Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said. "There are generators at Ford Park, and FEMA is withholding their release. They want to finish their damage assessment."

Jefferson County officials had a plan to distribute Meals-Ready-to-Eat from local fire stations, the paper said. However, Griffith said the MREs, like the generators, were being withheld by FEMA.

"They won't let us have them," Griffith said. "They said we had to go through the state - which we already did - to get them. I'm going over there (to Ford Park) now to figure this out."

Looters have struck in town, but had to be let go because there is no safe place to jail them right now. Officials have asked FEMA to provide temporary jail quarters.

The Enterprise has not published a print edition this weekend but provided PDFs of a scaled-down version on its still-active Web site. It included a note there Sunday: "We will publish a home edition as soon as we possibly can."

Griffith said he's sending fire officials to local stores to get supplies, including propane to cook with. "We're going into stores and taking food out," Griffith said. "We're going to do what we got to do to get the job done....

"There's just a breakdown in the state and federal government that you saw in Katrina and you've seen in other disasters," Griffith said. He said he hopes to see a change "so at least the next people that have to go through it ... will have some kind of process that makes sense that can immediately deliver what people need."

[speedkillz]

I'll evacuate with 2million others and take 27 hours to drive less than 200 miles. run out of gas, hope and pray the storm dosen't follow the path predicted.... and your right add 10 feet of water and all hell WOULD have broke loose.

[bryanthompson]

Add in a giant volcano and you almost have a movie.

[turbo6bar]

Originally posted by Mule
OK boys, time for a little reality check.

1.Put 10 feet of water in downtown Houston & see if things change.

Most people have enough sense NOT to live under sea level. Why aren't we giving AL and MS another $250B? Those coastal areas weren't devastated?

The only reality check is half of Americans believe the $250B in Federal aide is ridiculous.

We (state, local, and Federal governments) screwed up. Let's throw money at it. Problem is money don't fix incompetent and corrupt. $55k per man, woman, and child in Louisiana is crazy. The flooded shacks in NO don't even cost that much.

[Jeff Higgins]

A couple hundred billion here, a couple of hundred billion there - pretty soon you're talking some real money.

[seventyeight911]

what did Rita say to Katrina.........




....hold my earrings, im gonna fuch these people up too.

[rcecale]

Originally posted by slakjaw
That list is so dumb it makes me sick...

...I really hope they all die. get killed murdered stabed choked whatever just get them off the planet

Randy

[CRH911S]

23. TEXAS...Tom Delay, (R) Texas, 2nd most powerful man in congress, indicted.

But, I agree with your examples.

[Rondinone]

Originally posted by CRH911S
23. TEXAS...Tom Delay, (R) Texas, 2nd most powerful man in congress, indicted.

But, I agree with your examples.

Yes but unlike Clinton, McGreevey, Condit and Torricelli, Delay has stepped down from his leadership position. If he is convicted he will resign. We Republicans keep our own house clean.

[tdatk]

I don't have a clue what it should cost to rebuild NO, but we should be asking the right questions about how to control the flooding and asking for help from people who have been there done that as well. Gotta build a good foundation first.
This link is interesting...
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[Instrument 41]

Its real easy to sit back and take shots at a region thats been devastated, basing some of your opinions on what the news reports. The news never said anything about the hundreds of thousands that did evacuate. The news has never said that the levee's that are south of N.O are in as bad of shape and maybe worse. The news doesn't speak of the crushing effect that Both storms had on Louisiana as a state in regards to our citrus crop, sugar cane crop, cattle, soybeans, and the industrial corridor that supports oil production. We have business down here ready to start up but they can't find their employees. And the issue of rapes and murders, proven to not be true, so take that one off your list.
On the other hand, 250 billion??? I don't think so. We can't handle what we have now. Another thing the news is not reporting is how FEMA has been handing out money left and right with almost zero accountability. Now an investigation has ensued. FEMA is spending money down here in ridiculous amounts. Building instant trailer parks all over. If a private citizen has a truck capable of pulling one of the smaller travel trailers, that they will be using for housing (that ought to cause a few riots) FEMA will pay mileage, fuel cost and $35.00 per hour. Thats from the time of arrival till your return. My point in this...it ain't the state thats spending money ...its FEMA! My rant is over, I'm sick and tired of conjecture based on half ass sensationalized news reports.

[speeder]

Texas has smoking hot chicks.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Instrument 41
Its real easy to sit back and take shots at a region thats been devastated, basing some of your opinions on what the news reports. The news never said anything about the hundreds of thousands that did evacuate. The news has never said that the levee's that are south of N.O are in as bad of shape and maybe worse. The news doesn't speak of the crushing effect that Both storms had on Louisiana as a state in regards to our citrus crop, sugar cane crop, cattle, soybeans, and the industrial corridor that supports oil production. We have business down here ready to start up but they can't find their employees. And the issue of rapes and murders, proven to not be true, so take that one off your list.
On the other hand, 250 billion??? I don't think so. We can't handle what we have now. Another thing the news is not reporting is how FEMA has been handing out money left and right with almost zero accountability. Now an investigation has ensued. FEMA is spending money down here in ridiculous amounts. Building instant trailer parks all over. If a private citizen has a truck capable of pulling one of the smaller travel trailers, that they will be using for housing (that ought to cause a few riots) FEMA will pay mileage, fuel cost and $35.00 per hour. Thats from the time of arrival till your return. My point in this...it ain't the state thats spending money ...its FEMA! My rant is over, I'm sick and tired of conjecture based on half ass sensationalized news reports.

Amen. Not a word about Alabama, anywhere. Outlying towns? Nobody's covering them.

It'll take an independent commission to diagnose what went wrong and help point to a better solution for the next time.

[RoninLB]

Some could blame Tammany Hall for NYC political heritage just as some could say Hooey Long is L's heritage.

that said the L gov't is inefficient and lacking in logic except for maintaining their style of socialist state gov't insanity intact. It's not the politicians fault for working within the system they exist in.

It may become the insurance companies that apply logic to L if the Feds can't. Actually S or N Dakota may be a good answer for many of L resident's prob's. Neb is another option as the L resident indoctrinated lower class could milk cows for entering the job markets with a work history.

[rcecale]

Originally posted by techweenie
It'll take an independent commission to diagnose what went wrong and help point to a better solution for the next time.

Yeah, fat chance of finding one of those that can be completely and politically unbiased.

Randy

[304065]

Some of you guys need to look up the words "tu quoque" on Google. The facts of the Big Dig, or Tom DeLay, have nothing to do with the rebuilding effort in Louisiana.