I dont want a hood scoop! Help

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 09:02 AM

I have been working on a 318i M10 turbo for some time now and have run into a small problem. I used the stock manifold, flipped it upside down, and made an adapter for the T3 flange. I made the adapter as low as possible, theres just enough room to tighten the nuts.

Problem is the turbo touches the hood when its closed. Its going to burn the hell out of it. So I need to raise the hood in that section (4" x 4"). I dont really want to put a ricer scoop on one side of the hood. Anyone see any nice looking way to do this?

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

Can you subtly flare the hood a bit and add some cermic insulating material? It's a lot of work but will save you the hood scoop.

pwd72s · 10-13-2005, 09:09 AM

Instead of a scoop, how about a "bubble"? Those beautiful long nosed cars of the early 60's did it all the time...hoods with mysterious bumps on them...usually for carb clearance.

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by pwd72s
Instead of a scoop, how about a "bubble"? Those beautiful long nosed cars of the early 60's did it all the time...hoods with mysterious bumps on them...usually for carb clearance.

I would love to do this but I need to find a hood that I can cut the bubble off of and weld it to mine. Any ideas? Didnt a little Dodge car have a turbo bumo?

pwd72s · 10-13-2005, 09:25 AM

If doing it yourself, I'd suggest making a rough design out of cardboard...then visit a Detroit car wrecking yard & start matching curves...you might find what you're looking for on a crumpled trunk lid corner, a fender curve, wherever. If that panel has been hit, the wrecked-em yard would sell it for next to nothing...

Tim Hancock · 10-13-2005, 09:28 AM

Terry, I would think about cutting a circle in some particle board then throwing a sheet of old truck tire inner tube on it. Next find a hard large ball (bowling ball maybe?) then carefully postion the hood over the hole and smack the ball with a large mallet thus cold forming the bubble into the hood. If the paint is warmed first it may not even crack. I would experiment on a scrap pc of sheet metal first though and be sure to size the hole properly.

Vipergrün · 10-13-2005, 09:32 AM

Actually, I do not think a little scoop like on the WRX's looks too bad. IMHO, a bubble may look a little odd, but you could probably find one to use from like a Turbo Mitsu Eclips or similar, didn't they have one?

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 09:42 AM

LOL, I always wondered why that guy purposely put that turbo that high. He could have obviously cut atleast a foot off of it.

Anyway, I just came across a cool little scoop.

Tim, you're a nut.

304065 · 10-13-2005, 09:49 AM

Terry, I would steer clear of a power bulge. The whole POINT is to make people think that you have a bone stock 98 hp four-banger under there!

If it were German taxi yellow with a 324d badge, more the better.

http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/bmw.htm

http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/clints.html

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by john_cramer
Terry, I would steer clear of a power bulge. The whole POINT is to make people think that you have a bone stock 98 hp four-banger under there!

If it were German taxi yellow with a 324d badge, more the better.

http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/bmw.htm

http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/clints.html

Ahh, you found my reference site. Only difference is he mounted hi turbo below the mani. I couldn't do that because my is so low ,bilstien shocks, ie springs, ie sways, 3" drop +/-. The outlet to the turbo would hit the ground, lol. You also need an insane amount of intercooler and charge piping. Here is mine:

It sits about 2" higher than in the pic.

With the stance, brakes, 15" Kosei wheels (14 lbs!) this thing looks anything but stock.

M.D. Holloway · 10-13-2005, 10:03 AM

Any chance of actually raising the entire hood? Put on a side panels where the hood meets the fenders.

BTW - I like the lil scoop you found.

928ram · 10-13-2005, 10:04 AM

Terry, is it hitting the outer skin of the hood or some of the inner bracing? Would some sort of grill-type panel painted with hi-temp paint and flush (or close to flush) mounted work?

Several of the FWD Chryco cars used a low profile "bulge"; Daytonas and Shadows had them as well as a couple of the Omni hatchback cars probably some others.

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by 928ram
Terry, is it hitting the outer skin of the hood or some of the inner bracing? Would some sort of grill-type panel painted with hi-temp paint and flush (or close to flush) mounted work?

Several of the FWD Chryco cars used a low profile "bulge"; Daytonas and Shadows had them as well as a couple of the Omni hatchback cars probably some others.

I wish it was hitting a brace. Sitting on the skin.

I thought about cutting a duct and just putting a mesh on it but I fear the turbo would cook that too.

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 10:24 AM

I think this is what you where thinking?:

Moses · 10-13-2005, 10:25 AM

Go with something classy like this;

Moses · 10-13-2005, 10:31 AM

Didn't the Ford Probe have a small bump in the hood? Might be a suitable graft.

bryanthompson · bryanthompson's Garage

eagle talons have a small bump.

928ram · 10-13-2005, 10:33 AM

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I think this is what you where thinking?:

Yeah something like that to keep the lines clean. Since it's hitting the outer skin, even something like that wouldn't work because engine movement would bust it out. Looks like either a bulge or scoop is the way to go.

A NACA duct would work, but would probably look stupid with a turbo in the middle of it.

Tim Hancock · 10-13-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by TerryBPP

Tim, you're a nut.

Actually I was being serious, but obviously there are plenty options available if you are going to cut the hood.

TerryBPP · 10-13-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Actually I was being serious, but obviously there are plenty options available if you are going to cut the hood.

Jesus, I thought you were kidding. How tall a ladder do I stand on?