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I followed this case pretty closely, to the point of reading the transcripts. The school board members really went out of their way to force this issue, and went to great lengths to cover up their intentions. I don't think the parents realized it until the trial occured. Although the discovery institue is calling Jones an activist judge, they are sadly mistaken.


Mul, so assuming that you are right about their being no separation of church and state, what if the brand of ID promoted Satan as the creator? Perhaps some small group of satanic cultists could get elected to a school board near you and introduce their own spin on every subject. I guess by your reasoning this would be ok. Right?

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Good. Nice to see Pennsylvania falls into the "has-working-neurons" part of our nation. Keep the JC froot-loops outta' public education, public space and public funds. Seperation of church and state is established doctrine, not a myth, depite the pathetic attempt of the Amerikan Taliban to degrade it and batter it down. Pennsylvania gets high marks in my book.
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Good. Nice to see Pennsylvania falls into the "has-working-neurons" part of our nation. Keep the JC froot-loops outta' public education, public space and public funds. Seperation of church and state is established doctrine, not a myth, depite the pathetic attempt of the Amerikan Taliban to degrade it and batter it down. Pennsylvania gets high marks in my book.

As long as we are clear that a KKK member "established" it, we are absolutely clear. It is established in no founding document. In fact the earliest "Amerikan Taliban" saw fit to weave Christianity and the Mosaic law throughout American public life. You see the byproduct of their Jihad to this day. This is why we are the most repressed society in the world.

This judge falls into the "I have an axe to grind" part of our nation. He went beyond his judicial authority and used the court and his power to define what is and what is not "religion."...He violated the establishment clause to defend the leftist controlled un-Constitutional public school system.

Evolution is theoretical at best and is certainly less than science, and this is the point of the Board.
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[i]Evolution is theoretical at best and is certainly less than science, and this is the point of the Board. [/B]
Is this then a justification for re-dressing creationism as a science? Is it proper or evendesirable to present a faith based study in a science curriculum?

BTW I agree evolution is a theory, a good one at that and not less than science. And it is one that can be studied via the scientific method if one were to design a longterm experiment to test it. Try testing creationism in a scientific experiment.

And no Mul, I do not question your faith nor do I have the answer to where the first bit of life came from. I am just a seeker.
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A huge amount of what is being taught is also purely "faith based".
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I read some quotes from the judge's opinion in today's paper, it is an excellent one. He asks the most obvious, (but completely impervious to the brain-dead religious right), question: Why is evolution inconsistent w/ religious faith??
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A huge amount of what is being taught is also purely "faith based".
For example?

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