Do As I Say (Not As I Do) : Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by techweenie
Completely incorrect account of the 'Al Gore temple incident.'

But if you repeat it enough...

Then please tell us thecorrect account

[tabs]

I know I am the "master" of the Troll...I also know at times my retorts have a devastating effect, much like a wrecking ball hitting a house.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by tabs
I know I am the "master" of the Troll...I also know at times my retorts have a devastating effect, much like a wrecking ball hitting a house.

You're quite the legend in your own mind tabs.

[tabs]

NO COOL I AM A LEGEND ON THIS BOARD....and anyplace that I go where I practice my JUJU.....The whole R Gruppe let alone the Early Registry puts its tail betwen its legs when they see me coming.....ask anybody here...

Ask PWD72S for instance...

[tabs]

A little more and I would have hijacked this whole Thread...ehhh no challenge anymore

I have no doubt that many members of the Democratic Black caucus desparage as Uncle Toms Blacks who are Repblicans...They don't understand that Whitey giving Darky a handout is still keeping them in Bondage, by keeping them dependent.

A question to raise...is it better to be a House Nigger aka Uncle Tom living up in the Big House with Master or better to be a Field Nigger and living in the shacks by the old mill pond aka as the cesspool.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Racerbvd
Then please tell us thecorrect account

The Monterey Park area Democrats had a fund-raising effort and accumulated enough to make a decent-sized check out to the Gore campaign.

Gore had a speech scheduled at a local Buddhist temple, and the Monterey Park Democratic party chair figured she could present the check to him in person. She didnt' clear it with the Gore campagin; just planned to go ahead and handed him the check at the temple.

One of the coordinators of the fund raising effort wanted to make the check "at least $100,000" but only $45,000 had been raised. The head of the temple promised to try to raise the remaining $55K that was wanted from the monks and nuns. And they did.

So the temple was just the site where the check was handed over. The visit wasn't specifically a fund-raiser, and Buddhist monks do not take anything like a vow of poverty.

So the story isn't simple; but it also isn't particularly sordid.

Probably the same or similar things happened at Christian churches during the campaign, but the fact it was at a Buddhist temple seemed to give the RNC some traction.

An ex-GF of mine was a member of that temple at the time. No attempt was made on behalf of the temple to raise money from the congregation.

[Nathans_Dad]

CC, once again you are trying to put words in my mouth. My first post on this thread was in response to the following post from you.

Originally posted by cool_chick
Now the NAACP, etc. is "against" black Republicans?



whaaaaaaaaaa. The classic "victim" bull***** again. haha

So you see, it was you who made the claim that black Democrats (well you actually said the NAACP, but last I checked those were pretty much black Democrats) were not "against" black Republicans.

So I don't have the position to defend. You made the generalization, not me. I simply pointed out a very recent instance where black Democrats DID in fact denigrate a black Republican.

[cool_chick]

Ok nathans_dad, since you feel I'm unclear as to your position...

let it out...

what IS your position with regard to black democrats and black republicans? What do YOU think about it?

[Nathans_Dad]

I think that there are some black Democrats that put their party above their race. These are the people who cause the problems like what happened in Maryland. I think that behavior is horrible and it's racism.

I also think there are many black Democrats that would like to see someone of color in power no matter if they were Republican or Democrat.

I do, however, think it is counterproductive for the black community to keep other black people out of positions of power simply because they don't belong to a certain political party.

And I think black Republicans are going to be one of the major moving forces in the Republican party of the future. People like JC Watts, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc. I would vote any of those people for President in a heartbeat.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I think that there are some black Democrats that put their party above their race. These are the people who cause the problems like what happened in Maryland. I think that behavior is horrible and it's racism.

I also think there are many black Democrats that would like to see someone of color in power no matter if they were Republican or Democrat.

I do, however, think it is counterproductive for the black community to keep other black people out of positions of power simply because they don't belong to a certain political party.

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington, 1911


Booker T. Washington, a black man seemingly forgotten by the black power brokers.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I think that there are some black Democrats that put their party above their race. These are the people who cause the problems like what happened in Maryland. I think that behavior is horrible and it's racism.

I also think there are many black Democrats that would like to see someone of color in power no matter if they were Republican or Democrat.

I do, however, think it is counterproductive for the black community to keep other black people out of positions of power simply because they don't belong to a certain political party.

And I think black Republicans are going to be one of the major moving forces in the Republican party of the future. People like JC Watts, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc. I would vote any of those people for President in a heartbeat.

Thank you. You only answered one sided though. How do you feel about black republicans and black democrats?

[techweenie]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I think black Republicans are going to be one of the major moving forces in the Republican party of the future. People like JC Watts, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc. I would vote any of those people for President in a heartbeat.

My opinion (though you didn't ask) is that none of the above can possibly be nominated for President by the RNC.

JC Watts: From a small state; little national exposure.

Colin Powell: used and abandoned by the Bushies. Considered damaged goods for effectively apologizing for lying to the UN and Americans. More welcome in the Democratic party than the Republican.

Condi Rice: loyalist to a fault. Will be actively considered as VP possibility but polling will tell the RNC that it's not yet time for a "double minority" anywhere on their ticket. If she is a strong contender, the fine hand of Mr. Rove will plant a rumor about her sexuality.

But that's just my guess...

[Nathans_Dad]

Black Republicans and Black Democrats? What do you mean how do I feel? If you can show me an instance where Black Republicans threw Oreos and called a Black Democrat an Uncle Tom then I would say that is detestable as well.

Do you have such an incident or are you just trolling?

[Nathans_Dad]

Tech I would say that Condi has a good shot at the VP nomination in 2008. I agree that the others would probably not be nominated for President, Powell certainly could, but I don't think he would accept for family reasons.

JC Watts has voluntarily stepped out of the limelight for some reason, but if you ever heard that guy talk...man he is sharp.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Black Republicans and Black Democrats? What do you mean how do I feel? If you can show me an instance where Black Republicans threw Oreos and called a Black Democrat an Uncle Tom then I would say that is detestable as well.

Do you have such an incident or are you just trolling?

No, you expanded beyond that incident.

- you said you think some black democrats cause problems...etc.

- you said black democrats also would like to see people of color in power.

- you think it's counterproductive for the black community to keep others out of positions of power, etc.

- you think black republicans are going to have political power (although that one's probably going to be more difficult, there I don't think isn't even one black republican in congress right now, it's more likely going to be a black democrat in the race first, though I'm sure this will change in the future....)

I agree with you, and I welcome it, though I'm not sure I agree which "party" the black will emerge with first...

I'm asking what you think about how the black republicans feel about the black democrats, and the like.

[Nathans_Dad]

Well since I have no evidence of black Republicans acting like buffoons towards black Democrats I would have to conclude that they think black Democrats are ok. I'm sure they disagree with their politics just like they disagree with white Democrats, but I haven't seen them stoop to the level of racism to try and prevent them from gaining power. Have you?? If you have an article or link or something I'd like to see it...

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Well since I have no evidence of black Republicans acting like buffoons towards black Democrats I would have to conclude that they think black Democrats are ok. I'm sure they disagree with their politics just like they disagree with white Democrats, but I haven't seen them stoop to the level of racism to try and prevent them from gaining power. Have you?? If you have an article or link or something I'd like to see it...

You came up with your conclusions in your last post because of one incident?

I would agree with your last post, but not because of party affiliation. I don't see the thiings you pointed out have to do with the "party." Just happened to be these people belonged to that one party on this one occasion.

I'm sure there's incidents where it was reversed. It makes logical sense....this stuff is way deeper than "democrat" or "republican."

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by cool_chick
what IS your position with regard to black democrats and black republicans? What do YOU think about it?

To the DNC the black democrat politicians are lawn jockeys...You ever ask yourself why you never see a black Democrat in leadership or high office?...Democrats were the party of segregation, now they have changed their tune for political expediency.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
To the DNC the black democrat politicians are lawn jockeys...You ever ask yourself why you never see a black Democrat in leadership or high office?...Democrats were the party of segregation, now they have changed their tune for political expediency.

Actually, that's not true. The only blacks currently in congress are democrats. I can't think of one black republican in congress right now.

And actually it was the party that are calling themselves republicans now that was for segregation...the parties shifted.

But this is bull*****. Any one with half a brain knows neither party is "against" black people now.

[Nathans_Dad]

I will take from your non-answer that you do not, in fact, have any examples of incidents where members of the Republican party who are black have pelted a black Democratic candidate with Oreos, called him an Uncle Tom, posted demeaning and racist cartoons of him on their blogs, etc, etc, etc...??

And yes, when something as idiotic and hateful as that happens to a man who is just trying to serve his country, I tend to form an opinion based on it.