Meditation on the speed limit

[Howard Agency]

Originally posted by Tervuren
So then, if someone is breaking into your house, would you wish your neighbor to be courteous, and not tell anyone, lest the burgler who is breaking the law, and the privacy of your home, be inconvienced either by law enforcement, or by efforts on the part of the neighborrhood?

There is a difference between letting someone by when you are in a army truck that only goes 55MPH in a 60, If I'm drivng slow, I be sure to let them by.

Well, ya got me there. I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by Howard Agency
I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

So then, does how someone can obstruct the flow of traffic, that is not supposed to pass over the speed limit, so then, if four car's a driving the speed limit, they technichle should not be passed, and thus, they are not obstructing the flow of traffic, as the flow of traffic should not be moving any faster then they are.

[tobster1911]

Originally posted by Jim Cesiro
What I learned from the Video is that no one does the speed limit yet we get tickets for speeding as revenue generators and nothing more. Safety is not the issue. Because as shown in this video obeying the law is more dangerous than speeding. Unfortunatly speeding comes with the rish of selective enforcement (revenue generating) and a fine.

This is one of my biggest problems with the speed limits. It is portrayed as a safety issue, which will win the support of little old ladies who hear safety and will approve anything, but in reality has very little to do with safety. Prove to me that changing the limit from 45 at the coming up one side of the hill to 40 going down the other side (my last speeding ticket) makes one bit of difference safety-wise. Oh and guess where the cop was sitting?

The other benefit of tying it to safety? Why the insurance companies of course. You have two speeding tickets they get to jack your rates up until you sing soprano.

They should just call it a random highway tax and be done with it.

[legion]

Originally posted by tobster1911
Why the insurance companies of course. You have two speeding tickets they get to jack your rates up until you sing soprano.

There is a correlation between speeding tickets and likelihood of having an accident. I suspect that behaviors like tailgating, erratic lane usage, and driving below the limit would have a higher correlation, but tickets aren't really written for those and therefore they are not really tracked. Credit rating has an even higher correlation with likelihood of having an accident than number of speeding tickets do.

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by legion
There is a correlation between speeding tickets and likelihood of having an accident. I suspect that behaviors like tailgating, erratic lane usage, and driving below the limit would have a higher correlation, but tickets aren't really written for those and therefore they are not really tracked. Credit rating has an even higher correlation with likelihood of having an accident than number of speeding tickets do.

I find that people who speed, also tail gate exceisively, and do stupid last minute moves through traffic. Problem is, most of the tickets are written when the police man has an isolated target, who is in most cases not a danger. The person zipping through traffic, he has no way of pinning a speed on him, and thus, only a serious cop will go for him.

[masraum]

I believe the main "safety" issue with speeding is not necessarily that if you are speeding you'll get into more accidents, but that an accident at a higher speed will generally cause, more damage, mayhem, and injury than an accident at a lower speed.

Also, I'm sure that you'd agree that there is a direct correlation of safety and speed when referring to something besides a lone highway, something more like residential, a street lined with parking lots and stores, etc... I don't think you were really referring to that, though.

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by masraum
I believe the main "safety" issue with speeding is not necessarily that if you are speeding you'll get into more accidents, but that an accident at a higher speed will generally cause, more damage, mayhem, and injury than an accident at a lower speed.

Also, I'm sure that you'd agree that there is a direct correlation of safety and speed when referring to something besides a lone highway, something more like residential, a street lined with parking lots and stores, etc... I don't think you were really referring to that, though.

Indeed, I beleive this disscussion is mainly about the interstates.

[Howard Agency]

Dealing with insurance companies on a daily basis, I can tell you some things they look at. Over 90% of CA driving records show no tickets or claims in the past 3 years. So if you're in that 10% they figure you're not as careful.

Not because you're a bad driver, just that you may lack situational awareness. If you're blasting the stereo or on the cell, it's less likely you'll see the Cop hiding on the onramp. It's the same thing that causes crashes.

Notice I didn't say 'accidents'. Been doing this for 40 years, and never have seen one of those, just cause and effect.