You never know, Fint...you never know.... That's the beauty of the "concealed" concept....

:p

I wear mine tied to my leg.

I can't say often enough that this is not necessarily my position. But I was looking at the aspect of a gun, and only a gun, as a tool, and what it does.

But realistically, what I say does hold water when you look at the pure mechanics of it (which is where I was coming from). To lunge a knife takes quite a bit effort...one has to jump, start to lunge, proceed to lunge, and there is some time there to react. A gun only has to be in a coat pocket, point, a teeny pressure on the finger, that's all she wrote. I'm looking at it as a purely mechanical standpoint.

And trust me, I do have the self defense mentality down pat. I need to....I"m a woman, and my greatest fear is not just mugging, but rape. It's an additional concern you men don't experience. However, I'm so glad you are also aware of those points....awareness, avoidance, deterrence, deescalation and evasion...they are important. It's so very important, and your weapon should be the last resort (as far as defense). I know an officer who had to kill a perpetrator, and I tell you, he knows this guy was bad, but not a day goes by that he doesn't feel remorse for taking a life. He understands he had to.....and he made the right choice, but if you have any sort of soul, it will weigh on you no matter what (just like war). It's better to not go there at all if it can be avoided. What you "would do" is one thing, once you "done it" is a whole different ballgame. Thankfully for you, you appear to be aware of the consequences.


pg, good point about the soccer moms.

Oh yeah?

hehe

Below the knee.

The best reason to carry concealed...instead of open
is to protect those who do not carry.

Cool chick, I'm just wondering, have you ever fired handguns before? Its about like saying driving is opening a door, sitting in a seat, and turning a key.

I miss too (firing range). Actually, I kinda suck at it. However, I'm assuming one who owns a gun and is carrying it has shot it before. Is this not a reasonable assumption?

I do acknowledge what you guys are saying though. Shock of what's happening, grabbing the thing, etc., will make a delay. To be honest, I was looking at it from the angle of one with each in each hand, I was looking at it purely mechanical.....a gun, a knife, you are going to take action with each, one takes the effort of flicking a cigarette, one takes physical effort. The gun will win.

The question was why do people fear guns, I just tried to answer why some do......

Edit: you changed you post Terv....I was answering the prior question. I hope it makes sense....

Fear guns, I think its a lack of understanding of life. To me, we are all going to die one way or another, and the thread between life and death is very thin. I'm twenty, I could be killed, or die tommorrow. For me, I consider my 944 more dangerous then I would a gun - with one exception. My 944, has keys that I carry, and people treat car's with respect. A gun does not scare me without a bad person to back it up, why? I was taught to respect them by my parents. My idea's of guns where not from movies, etc. They had me shoot them, and understand their potential for harm as well. The exact same thing with a car,they taught me how driving could be dangerous.

I enjoy firing a semi automatic "assault rifle". haven't done it in years. For me personaly, its a preference that I do not like full auto. Its possible if your motion and firing cycle coincide, to shoot at a bunch of people, and not hit one. I Vietnam Vet I know, he and his team, where crossing a rice feild single file, a man jumped up from their side, unloaded two 30 round clips, along their line. Not one was hit at all.

Grrrrr

AGAIN

I can't say often enough that this is not necessarily my position.

You're preaching to the choir.

Nice straw man set up for yourr point.

How about reaching for gun, placing hand on grip, removing safety strap, removing from holster, raising to eye level, releasing safety, chambering a rounds, aiming, checking what is behind your taget and squezzing the trigger. As for a knife, wipping it out and slashing. I can make a knife sound very easy to abuse.

Re-read my posts. You and CC (tough guy comment) are the ones calling people names, not me.

The bad guys (who are usually just bullies...and don't have much in the way of brains or nads) have to fear/assume that even the meekest little old lady from Pasadena packs a 357 magnum......
and parked in her rickety old garage.... a brand new shiny red super-stock dodge

Exactly what strawman from me do you perceive here?

Not to mention, methinks you may be confused as to what the term strawman means, my friend.

LOL too funny.

Except in very limited circumstances, automatic weapons are devices for turning money into noise.

Automatic weapons are very handy...if you know how to use them.

For me, one that throws hard lead is not practical. But I can understand the concepts from paintball, of the sheer terror that can be caused by throwing a lot of projectiles realy fast at the enemy. Natural tendancy is to keep thier head down, allowing movement into a more advantageous position. One of the differnece though, is with a large full auto, you'd probably be able to punch holes through some of the tree's used as cover. Where just a twig can break a paintball. My weapon of choice is trickery.

They are particularly effective with tracer rounds with a medium or long range weapon. At close range, they are a good way to lay down some heavy fire that is capable of penetrating light cover (doors, furniture, thin walls) better than a shotgun. An automatic shotgun is quite good for close work...but I like a pump.

"straw man. "The straw man fallacy is when you misrepresent someone else's position so that it can be attacked more easily, knock down that misrepresented position, then conclude that the original position has been demolished. It's a fallacy because it fails to deal with the actual arguments that have been made.

Asserting your definition of the mechanics of a fire arm and knife are accurate to support the conclusion the gun merely takes an itch in the finder to be more deadly.

Who's position am I misrepresenting?

It doesn't? Are you telling me if I have a knife in one hand and a gun in the other, I can with the flick of a finger do more damage with the knife, and the gun takes brute force to fire or something? Not to mention distance to the object?