This statements does not seem very pro gun

I never said CCW was not a good thing for Nebraska, where did I say that, Joe?

I am indifferent. But I see little difference in regard to "protection" between open carry and concealed carry.

And who cares who is "in the minority" or "majority?" I don't care either way! Why would you care? Your opinion should be your opinion, and not determined by "what the majority thinks."

And yes, we all have the right to our opinion, and even allowed to express it! Imagine that! BTW, I tend to agree with guys, and have stated that (somehow you missed that several times now Joe). But I do see where slakjaw is coming from as well. Only a selfish, closed-minded person would not see that.

But the only way to convince another is to offer the counterargument, and leave it at that. Even if they differ, the points on both sides are very good and valid. Hostile fillers completely loses your point.

Example:

I do not agree with welfare because I do not believe it's my duty to support another. WTF were you thinking you stupid, idiotic, moron? You have no point that the little baby won't get food! You thief, trying to take my money!

What does the reader see?

this

(A) I do not agree with welfare because I do not believe it's my duty to support another.

or this

(B) WTF were you thinking you stupid, idiotic, moron? You have no point that the little baby won't get food! You thief, trying to take my money!

The answer is (B). The reader has totally forgotten the point due to the insult, and innately responds in kind, only to be told he "is now rude" or whatever....

I agree, that's why I stated he didn't articulate well. He doesn't like the fact that the gun will now be hidden. I think he feels, if he sees the gun, he knows what he's up against.

"Hole?"

He also clarified here that he supports open-carry. Actually, many posts in the past have supported that as well.

I'm confused as to what "hole" he's in here?

Why does he fear guns? Does he regularly see open carry? Does he think that just because he doesn't see it, it isn't there?

Really, why does he fear people who are carrying guns?

He doesn't fear guns, he's got like 4 at least. He fears legalizing 'hidden'. I see his point, man.

Why does he fear people who carry guns?

Knows what he's up against? Are you kidding? As has been stated MANY times over, it's not the CCW (or open carry) person you should be concerned with.

Most of the population will absolutely freak out at the sight of open carry. No matter if the person carrying open is a law-abiding citizen or not. They'll freak. It's just not worth the hassle for the person attempting to open carry.

Why does he fear people who have gone through the required training, passed all the required proficiency tests and endured rigorous back ground checks all in order to legally carry a firearm concealed?

It's the ones who haven't gone through this process that I'd be worried about.

I don't know if he "fears" people carrying guns, I think he's concerned about those who HIDE guns. I'd like to provide a thought on this myself however.....

Looking at strictly the tool itself (the gun), if it weren't so easy, with zero effort, to completely destroy a life (a flick of a finger), maybe some wouldn't "fear" so much. With a knife, it takes an effort to lunge at the person, time to back out of the way. With a gun in a jacket pocket, the movement it takes me to flick a cigaratte on the sidewalk, a person or thing is dead.

Now consider complete strangers. You don't know them, you don't know if they're mad, drunk, pissed off at their wives, on lithium, etc. A complete stranger next to you having the power to end a life with the same effort it takes to flick a cigarette is a profound thought.

This statement is not to be construed in any way as a condemnation of guns, it's only an answer to the question as asked. I am not advocating banning guns or anything, as I feel the benefits outweigh the risks, not to mention the 2nd amendment, but I wanted to give you a little food for thought at those who may fear handguns (which is NOT Kyle, he's concerned about the CONCEALED, he likes and even personally takes advantage of open carry).

Is Kyle your brother?

Or the turn of a wheel on a crowded street. It is the person, not the tool.

If the person has a CHL, they are not taking lithum or drunk. It is illegal to purchase/own/posses a gun if you have a history of mental issues.

People with a CHL know exactly what the consequences of thier actions will be. It has been painfully spelled out. Open carry does not have those requirements. I know exactly what a person goes through and I would trust with a gun, anyone who has passed the CHL requirements in Texas. These are the "White Hats".

All of the things listed as being feared, it won't make any difference if the gun is concealed or not. They all remain the same, concealed or not. The fear's are in the carrying of the pistol, not the concealment.

No, CC, he has no point. He's made a statement with nothing at all to back it up, that makes it irrational at best.

For the same reason that I fear some people who drive cars on the same roads as I do.

For the same reason?

I have gone through here and re-read this post. I dunno, maybe its not so bad.

I go to the range, usually twice a week and I sometimes see guys being totally disrespectful/irresponsible with firearms it makes me think about them getting a CCW permit. Which IMO IS kind of scary. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe I should sign up for the class to see how hard it is. See what is taught. See if they can filter out those type of people.

Open carry for me allows for myself and the rest of the public to make a judgement call. If this person looks like an irresponsible type of person, (like I do see at the range some days)it allows me to distance myself from them. And yes here a few people do wear a gun on their belt, you do not see it every day though.

Joe

Quit being a pole-smoke

Definitely take the class when it's offered. The people who take it will not be nut jobs. You will see the people who take having a firearm, very seriously. With all of the checks required, you definitely get some separation of wheat and chaff.

I would encourage you to take the class. Anyone who owns a firearm should, even if not for hte purpose of satisfying the CCW requirements, just for the sake of training and knowledge.

I do not think you will be satisfied with the "filter" aspect with the CCW class. The filtering is done through research into the State and local police department as well as the FBI database.