Just one more reason to hate those low-life French!!

[legion]

Originally posted by sammyg2
Why would france owe the US anything?
Last I checked, they still speak French instead of German. France would not exist if not for intervention from the US and Great Britain. Hundreds of thousands of US soldiers fought and died in Europe to defeat germany and liberate france, belgium, Poland, etc.

Then there was that little thing they drug the US into in vietnam, I'd say they owe us big time for that.

But no..... France never misses a chance to stab the US in the back and we are tired of it.
france reminds me of the little kid who mouths off and challenges the bigger kids on the block, while he hides behind his mother's skirt.

One might say they have a Napoleon complex.

[72doug2,2S]

I am dumbfounded at your remark. You cannot possibly want to go into an accounting argument where people died for Freedom. You will not make any ground on such an emotionally charged subject. I’d just drop it, but continue if you want.


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i'm saying that France doesn't owe anything over WW2 , cause it payed for it in many ways

[svandamme]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
I am dumbfounded at your remark. You cannot possibly want to go into an accounting argument where people died for Freedom. You will not make any ground on such an emotionally charged subject. I’d just drop it, but continue if you want.

yet that's what you guys did

"France still owes us big time"

you are the one who was accounting the debt owed to you
what , 60 years after the facts?

what will it take before you stop using that arguement every time France disagrees with the US?? 100 years from now? 300 years? 1000 ??

i think you should indeed drop it... that was my point ...

[SGB]

Isn't it as unreasonable to assume all French have the same political convictions? Clearly, all Americans do not.

[72doug2,2S]

Freedom isn't Free baby and a little gratitude goes a long way. Go to those French foriegn fields and ask our boys how long we should remember them? That's the best answer I can give you.

Just a friendly reminder, on any emotionally charged subject you just can't win. Ever had a wife, or a Mother?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by svandamme
i do , just not sure if you do
i'm saying that France doesn't owe anything over WW2 , cause it payed for it in many ways, and it helped the rebels fight the Brittish and gain souverinity... without that, there might not have been a USofA

anyone still thinking the US can do what it wants cause we owe you is misguided to say the least...
anyone thinking moving graves is a good thing ... is cheap and has no clue what dignity means

He has no understanding at all. The French would be puzzled at the small mindedness in removing the dead servicemen on their land, but little more.

In a way, Americans owe the French for recent activities; they're helping America prevent the Bush'ists from harming the country even more than they already have by laying roadblocks to slow or even stopping the rogue US government from killing more innocent people than it's doing now.

If I was to ask the French for anything, it would be for them to turn it up, and to thank them.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by legion
One might say they have a Napoleon complex.

Bush is the Napoleon act-alike these days.

Napoleon was a monster, just like Bush.

[svandamme]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
Freedom isn't Free baby and a little gratitude goes a long way. Go to those French foriegn fields and ask our boys how long we should remember them? That's the best answer I can give you.

there is no limit on remembering them
your preaching to the wrong person my friend, i'm from Ypres.
i was born on land that was hell on earth for 4 years straight, we still dig up corpses and ammo from 80+ years ago... we still play the Last Post , every day of the week year in year out...we think about it every day in our home town... not just once in a while when we want to make an arguement about beeing owed..

[gaijindabe]

Come on guys - can't we just have a little harmless French bashing without it turning nasty?

For the record - for fans of Pierre Landet (formerly of Bistro Cassis, on 14th St. NYC), is back at a really great place downtown - Le Cercle Rouge on West Broadway, just north of White St. I recommend it to all.

[72doug2,2S]

Pat you are absolutely correct from a French perspective. The French have forgotten and are puzzled at my remarks. They would say he doesn’t understand us or rather anything at all. Hmmm, so where does this anti French sentiment come from?

Stjin, you want to understand an American passionate feeling that many of us have. I’m explaining it to you. But, perhaps I should just say it’s a “freedom-fighting thing, you wouldn’t understand.” I really can’t possible write down a feeling like this you can read and fully understand.

You want to argue a feeling. That’s stupid. I feel hungry. Go ahead tell me I don’t.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
Pat you are absolutely correct from a French perspective. The French have forgotten and are puzzled at my remarks. They would say he doesn�t understand us or rather anything at all. Hmmm, so where does this anti French sentiment come from?

Stjin, you want to understand an American passionate feeling that many of us have. I�m explaining it to you. But, perhaps I should just say it�s a �freedom-fighting thing, you wouldn�t understand.� I really can�t possible write down a feeling like this you can read and fully understand.

You want to argue a feeling. That�s stupid. I feel hungry. Go ahead tell me I don�t.

What I'm trying to explain to you is that the French people owe the US government no allegiance whatsoever, and neither do we Americans.

The US government is the problem for us, and many others worldwide. Yet is only we Americans that can get it back under control, and downsized to a manageable size.

That means the US military can only be allowed enough money and troops to fit under the Constitutional mandate of no standing Army and a Navy sized for defense of the coasts of America only. No US government warships beyond the 200 mile self defense limit, no overseas bases of any kind.

No if's, no and's, and no but's.

[techweenie]

It's easier to blame the French than to blame the 47% of Americans that did not support our invasion of Iraq in '03.

It's easier to blame France than the 60+ other countries that didn't support the invasion.

It's easier to overlook the fact France was among the first to volunteer troops in the invasion of Agshanistan.

It's easier to blame France than to look at the fact that our invasion was based on a false premise. Maybe we're now supposed to hate France for being right on Iraq?

I don't watch Faux News, so will somebody bring me up to date on why we still are supposed to hate France?

[72doug2,2S]

Techweenie as I said in my earlier post this isn't a rational thing. Feelings aren't rational they're feelings. You might be above that feeling, while many others are below it. You cannot deny its existence or argue it rationally. You may try to explain an individuals smarts aren't so good that's why he thinks that way, but in the end you'll get nowhere with that argument.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
Techweenie as I said in my earlier post this isn't a rational thing. Feelings aren't rational they're feelings. You might be above that feeling, while many others are below it. You cannot deny its existence or argue it rationally. You may try to explain an individuals smarts aren't so good that's why he thinks that way, but in the end you'll get nowhere with that argument.

I guess I don't get all emotional like some neocons here. It's really hard to relate to people who are ruled by raging emotions -- and frankly, not worth the bother, unless they have a vagina.

[72doug2,2S]

Well said, although I don't know that any conservatives here were former socialists that migrated to Regan (Neocons). Anyone here?

[Dottore]

Originally posted by techweenie
It's really hard to relate to people who are ruled by raging emotions -- and frankly, not worth the bother, unless they have a vagina.

A wonderful line! Thank you for that.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Stijn,

If you really want to upset an American, remind them that it was the French Army that stabilized the fledgling US Government for the first almost 20 years of it's existance. Of course, not too many American History books remind us of this fact.

[Jim Richards]

I love french roast coffee.

[svandamme]

i don't feel compelled to upset anyone , i do like correcting flawed logic

i just find no logic in a statement about hating low life french, not for these reasons, hate is a very strong word, so is low life, whoever uses them on the citizens of a democratic nation , just because of a futile event like this... is beyond me... surely there are other things to hate? dunno , maybe one could hate child molesters? rapists? you know , evil things?


and i also find no logic racking up old debts to get somebody to agree with you ... it's something women do to get you to say what you want... not men

[72doug2,2S]

LOL. Jim, you crack me up. Don't forget the statue of liberty.

David, Stjin already made that point very well. What I believe he wanted to know was why do we remember WWI and WWII with such fire in the soul. It can't be explained rationally.