Wmd

[techweenie]

Originally posted by IROC
The only flaw in your logic is that we were attacked by one entity and started a war against a different one. I don't think Iraq flew any planes into the WTC...

Mike

Well, that's not quite the only flaw. Clinton actually ordered the CIA to eliminate al Quaeda and dropped missiles on Osama. GWB did nothing.

[kang]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Whether they did or didn't, we will never know...Did Saddam want to?...Sure...Was Saddam capable of getting chemical or biological weapons into the hands of terrorists like Osama?...Of course, no doubt, you would be an absolute fool to think otherwise.

I don't know how Saddam could have given WMD's to Osama when he didn't have any WMD's to give...

[on-ramp]

weren't the 911 hijackers from Saudi Arabia. Why didnt the US invade "them"?

[kang]

Originally posted by techweenie
Well, that's not quite the only flaw. Clinton actually ordered the CIA to eliminate al Quaeda and dropped missiles on Osama. GWB did nothing.

Like the August '01 presidential daily briefing that said Al Qaeda determined to strike inside the US. This briefing was totally ignored by GWB.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by kang
I don't know how Saddam could have given WMD's to Osama when he didn't have any WMD's to give...

The consensus from the leading investigators into WMD, Saddam had plans of evolving his WMD programs and arming nook-u-lur-ly...The question is not if Saddam had WMD, the question is "what did he do with them?"...This uncomfortable question doesn't get much play by the dominant news "makers" as it diminishes their manipulative perception manufacturing.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by kang
Like the August '01 presidential daily briefing that said Al Qaeda determined to strike inside the US. This briefing was totally ignored by GWB.

That was a CYA memo, nothing more...Clinton dropped the ball on terrorism, of this there is no doubt...Why else was Sandy Berger shoving documents in his socks and pants?...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

If Clinton was concerned with al qaeda then we never would have bombed Serbia....Clinton would have apprehended Osama when he had the chance...Clinton would have spent his final moments dealing with it, as opposed to frantically selling pardons to terrorists, drug dealers and corporate cronies.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by on-ramp
weren't the 911 hijackers from Saudi Arabia. Why didnt the US invade "them"?

They were in staging in Afghanistan, with operational ties to Saddam's Iraq.

[on-ramp]

911 hijackers had operational ties to Saddam's Iraq? how can you prove that?

[Moneyguy1]

"Tell a lie often enough, and with enough conviction and it ultimately becomes the truth".

Joseph Goebbels

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose


Please....like you lefties would be on board if we invaded N. Korea as opposed to a state sponsor of terrorism who had links to al qaeda...

I don't recall an invasion of Saudi Arabia, any one else see that or remember it? Of course, there's no legal method by which an invasion of Korea could be accomplished, as if the Bush'ists are concerned with the law. Naturally, Korea's big friend, China, being right next door is a show stopper and a half, too, just like for all bully boys, Bush won't mess with Korea "'cause they gots frienz".

Man you people are a pain in the rear, more like a cancerous hemorrhoid or polyp requiring multiple colonoscopies without sedation.

Since you're a fascist, which is a type of leftist, how are you segregating yourself from the other leftists? That you favor one war over another one?

How do you know Kim Jong Irr aint being handled behind the scenes?...Should Bush go running out to inform the hostile media, should he go tell the back-stabbing Democrats of his plans with North Korea?

Harddrive, sometimes you impress me with your objectivity, and then you slink back into your liberal bullcrap, in-the-box thinking, that disallows you from apprehending logically or rationally.

Says the young man up to his neck in fascist dung.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by on-ramp
911 hijackers had operational ties to Saddam's Iraq? how can you prove that?

"Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by fastpat
Says the young man up to his neck in fascist dung.

Main Entry: pro·jec·tion
Pronunciation: pr&-'jek-sh&n
Function: noun
6 a : the act of perceiving a mental object as spatially and sensibly objective; also : something so perceived b : the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety.

[pmajka]

Wayne for President!

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by on-ramp
weren't the 911 hijackers from Saudi Arabia. Why didnt the US invade "them"?

The same reason we didn't invade Austria when Hitler (an Austrian) declared war on the US.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
The same reason we didn't invade Austria when Hitler (an Austrian) declared war on the US.

Did we have economic ties to Austria? Economic ties is one reason (among others) for not invading SA, even if the terrorists were from there. In fact, Osama is Saudi.

[Rick Lee]

Wrong. Bin Laden was stripped of his Saudi citizenship long before 9/11.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
Wrong. Bin Laden was stripped of his Saudi citizenship long before 9/11.

And his assets? Were those taken too? I mean, really, being stripped of his citizenship didn't slow him down.

[Rick Lee]

What does that have to do with anything? Bin Laden was not acting on behalf of a state. Yes, he had Afghanistan's tacit approval, but he wasn't acting on behalf of Sudan when the embassies were bombed in Kenya and Tanzania. I think it's safe to say most Americans have serious problems with our relationship with the Saudis. But we'd much bigger problems if their government were an enemy. And bin Laden is not a reason to make an enemy of them. THey hate him as much as we do. Jordan is a close ally and Zarqawi was Jordanian.

[dd74]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
What does that have to do with anything? Bin Laden was not acting on behalf of a state. Yes, he had Afghanistan's tacit approval, but he wasn't acting on behalf of Sudan when the embassies were bombed in Kenya and Tanzania. I think it's safe to say most Americans have serious problems with our relationship with the Saudis. But we'd much bigger problems if their government were an enemy. And bin Laden is not a reason to make an enemy of them. THey hate him as much as we do. Jordan is a close ally and Zarqawi was Jordanian.

Please! That's a lame explanation for Saudi Arabia being a terrorist state that had a hand, whether indirect or direct in 9/11. They may loathe bin Laden only because of the attention to them that he drew. But they loathe us for our support of Israel, yet smile in our faces when they provide us crude.

Americans are correct to have a problem with Saudi Arabia. Their oil money, which we've in part provided them, has instilled countless acts of terrorism.

All along we should have invaded and taken over that country, not Iraq.

So again, if you at all know the answer: Did the Saudis make any attempt to freeze bin Laden's reported billions of dollars?

[Rick Lee]

I have no idea where UBL's money is stored, so I certainly don't know what attempts the Saudi gov't. made to freeze his assets. I know UBL's family also disowned him, so I doubt he has much access to their money.