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HardDrive · 06-19-2006, 10:39 PM

So.....I'm a bit confused here....I need some neo-con help.

This week, when North Korea launchs a three stage ballistic missle that can reach the US with a nuke on board.....isn't that a Weapon of Mass Destruction?

Funny, I don't seem to recall any advanced three stage ballistic missiles being found in Iraq. Plenty of camel ***** and Sadams gold toilets, but nope, no intercontinetal missle silos.

Sickening.

So mull, how do you feel knowing Kim Jong Dong can nuke your a$$, and that the dim wit you have so ardently supported has done nothing to protect you and your family? Must fell bad having a mad man with the cross hairs drawn squarely on you, and know your president has sold you out.

I guess 'nothing' is not quite accurate. Condi did make her frowny face and say all sorts of stern things on TV.

Mulhollanddose · 06-19-2006, 10:59 PM

Please....like you lefties would be on board if we invaded N. Korea as opposed to a state sponsor of terrorism who had links to al qaeda...Man you people are a pain in the rear, more like a cancerous hemorrhoid or polyp requiring multiple colonoscopies without sedation.

How do you know Kim Jong Irr aint being handled behind the scenes?...Should Bush go running out to inform the hostile media, should he go tell the back-stabbing Democrats of his plans with North Korea?

Harddrive, sometimes you impress me with your objectivity, and then you slink back into your liberal bullcrap, in-the-box thinking, that disallows you from apprehending logically or rationally.

dd74 · 06-19-2006, 11:08 PM

N. Korea is more believable as a terrorist state than Iraq ever was.

To worsen matters, haven't we pulled some U.S. troops out of S. Korea to fortify the U.S. efforts in Iraq?

Mulhollanddose · 06-19-2006, 11:14 PM

Really?...You have some links, linking Kim Jong Irr to al qaeda?...You people are tactical morons, useful idiots at best.

I have a brilliant idea, Bush should share all of the behind-the scene strategerizing with the media and the backstabbing Democrats, so the lefty armchair naysayers can disclaim and impugn his designs (no matter if they are for the good of America or not, it does not matter), all the while informing our enemies of our plans so they can thwart them.

dd74 · 06-19-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
I have a brilliant idea, Bush should share all of the behind-the scene strategerizing with the media and the backstabbing Democrats, so the lefty armchair naysayers can disclaim and impugn his designs (no matter if they are for the good of America or not, it does not matter), all the while informing our enemies of our plans so they can thwart them.

Yes, and meanwhile, I think you just completed a...yes...yes...a run-on sentence.

Obviously you didn't go to Harvard, Notre Dame or Georgetown, where they teach grammar, even to the Rightfully persuaded.

They teach grammar at Stanford as well, my friend, me thinks.

Mulhollanddose · 06-19-2006, 11:31 PM

I am lazy, which accounts for a majority of my scribblings here at Pelican Parts...I am lucky to get anything out cohesive.

dd74 · 06-19-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
I am lazy, which accounts for a majority of my scribblings here at Pelican Parts...I am lucky to get anything out cohesive.

Yes, it is difficult, at times, to be the Faulkner of the board.

Mulhollanddose · 06-19-2006, 11:48 PM

No need for name calling buddy...Faulk me?...Faulk you!!!

dd74 · 06-19-2006, 11:50 PM

LOL!

IROC · IROC's Garage

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Originally posted by HardDrive
So mull, how do you feel knowing Kim Jong Dong can nuke your a$$, and that the dim wit you have so ardently supported has done nothing to protect you and your family? Must fell bad having a mad man with the cross hairs drawn squarely on you, and know your president has sold you out.

As much as I am not a fan of Bush, he has done *something* to mitigate this threat. It's called Ground-Based Mid-course Defense (or GMD). We currently have about 10 or 11 missiles in silos ready to intercept (in theory) anything that N Korea tries to lob our way.

I worked on the program for a couple of years and a large portion of the work is done here at my facility...

Mike

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

Not sure what the range on the missile is, but the news says it is "possible" for it to reach "US Soil". That likely means Hawaii or Alaska, otherwise they would have said "likely to reach mainland US".

Edit:

Range of missile off of Google:

The Taep'o-dong-2 (TD-2) is said to be a two or three stage missile with a range estimated at approximately 3,650-3,750 km with a 700-1,000 kg payload. Other sources credit the TD-2/NKSL-X-2** with a range in excess of 4,000-4,300 km. North Korea has given various names to the Taep'o-dong missile, such as No-dong-3, Hwasong (Mars)-2 and Moksong (Jupiter)-2.

I also saw a news article which said they suspect the new missile might have a range of up to 10,000 km.

Anyone know the distance from N Korea to mainland US?

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

Found it:

9033 KM from Seoul, South Korea to San Francisco. Couldn't get the website to pull up a North Korean city, wouldn't recognize Pyongyang for some reason.

URY914 · URY914's Garage

From what I heard on an interview this morning we could take out the launch site with a cruise missile from a ship offshore at anytime. Of course that would piss off the left. The left would say the US is starting a war. They would rather have them attack us first and then go to war to clean up the mess. But wait, isn't that what happened with 9-1-1? The previous President didn't properly address the issue and we're now at war.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

North Korea isn't going to launch a missile from their capital. It will be from an island in the northeast, near the Russian border. I actually hope they do it. It would be the kick in the a$s the South needs to start realizing NK is a real danger and not some misunderstood, wayward neighbor. The younger generation there has no memory of the Korean War and views the US as the aggressor. The US is all that keeps them from being slaves in labor camps, serving the Kim Dynasty.

Testing the missile will also make Japan get serious about becoming a military player again, which I think would be good for stability there. It would keep China and NK in check.

It really doesn't matter whether we have 37,000 or 300 troops in South Korea. They are nothing more than a tripwire force to deter the North and reassure the South. If the North were to launch an invasion of the South, they'd make short work of our troops there, but would ensure a full retaliation. I read somewhere that NK would be able to lob something like 50,000 artillery shells PER HOUR on the South in the opening days of a conflict there. Seoul has about the same population of NYC and would be totally exterminated. With that kind of collateral, I'd say we don't have the freedom to deal with the North the way we did with Iraq.

Mulhollanddose · 06-20-2006, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by URY914
From what I heard on an interview this morning we could take out the launch site with a cruise missile from a ship offshore at anytime. Of course that would piss off the left. The left would say the US is starting a war. They would rather have them attack us first and then go to war to clean up the mess. But wait, isn't that what happened with 9-1-1? The previous President didn't properly address the issue and we're now at war.

Mulhollanddose · 06-20-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by IROC
As much as I am not a fan of Bush, he has done *something* to mitigate this threat. It's called Ground-Based Mid-course Defense (or GMD). We currently have about 10 or 11 missiles in silos ready to intercept (in theory) anything that N Korea tries to lob our way.

Seems like the Republicans, most specifically Reagan, were right all along...Seems the forward thinking Republicans have proven what short-sighted back-stabbers the Democrats have been, not only in the present but in the past as well.

Does anyone else remember what ridicule Reagan and Republicans got for SDI? and similar programs?...Star Wars?...Ray-Gun?...Fuk Democrats.

kang · 06-20-2006, 07:36 AM

Which is the greater threat, Iran or N. Korea?

IROC · IROC's Garage

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Originally posted by URY914
But wait, isn't that what happened with 9-1-1? The previous President didn't properly address the issue and we're now at war.

The only flaw in your logic is that we were attacked by one entity and started a war against a different one. I don't think Iraq flew any planes into the WTC...

Mike

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally posted by kang
Which is the greater threat, Iran or N. Korea?

I think NK is. Israel can keep Iran in check. Only we can do that with NK. That country produces nothing but counterfeit US dollars, methamphetamine and missiles. It is one big concentration camp, bent on extorting concessions from the US, SK and Japan.

Mulhollanddose · 06-20-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by IROC
The only flaw in your logic is that we were attacked by one entity and started a war against a different one. I don't think Iraq flew any planes into the WTC...

Mike

Whether they did or didn't, we will never know...Did Saddam want to?...Sure...Was Saddam capable of getting chemical or biological weapons into the hands of terrorists like Osama?...Of course, no doubt, you would be an absolute fool to think otherwise.