Wow. Just Wow. Kevin Tillman speaks out - Page 3

Z-man · Z-man's Garage

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Originally posted by kach22i
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/tillman.asp
Status: Undetermined.

Yeah, like what I said on pg. 1!

-Z

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 10:58 AM

Nobody's listening to you, Z!

Jeff Higgins · 10-23-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
This is my country too.

Yeah, I know. I find that offensive.

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 11:00 AM

Maybe he'd like to not be a victim of friendly fire.

kach22i · kach22i's Garage

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Originally posted by Z-man
Yeah, like what I said on pg. 1!

-Z

So you did, but you have to admit that fancy red lettering I used shows up real pretty like.

I must of missed it in between all the regular non-sense.

lendaddy · 10-23-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Yeah, I know. I find that offensive.

Jim Richards · 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Mid-term elections are coming up. Whoever really put this together, whether or not Tillman agreed to put his name to it, knows that. The shameless Dems will stoop to anything to tug at their constituants's heart strings. Just look at their multi-term Congresswoman they *****-canned in Illinois in favor of their wounded anti-war vet. Pathetic then, pathetic now. Pathetic that some of you swallow this crap hook, line, and sinker.

Rodeo, you missunderstand. Not so much Tillman's words (if they are in fact his) but the timing of their release, and the use to which they are being put.

Uh, no Mike, I'm not trying to imply that at all. Both sides have amply demonstrated their ability to roll around in the gutter. Examples abound on both sides of the aisle. It can be a rather amusing game of one-upsmanship at times, as to which side can come up with the most innappropriate material to use against the other. We just happen to be discussing Tillman, his letter, and the timing of its release. Clearly engineered by Democratic hacks, so that is why I'm picking on them. This time.

Money starts flowing in teacher bonus program
POSTED: 9:47 a.m. EDT, October 23, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- In the closing weeks of the fall campaign, the Bush administration is handing out money for teachers who raise student test scores, the first federal effort to reward classroom performance with bonuses.

The 16 grants total $42 million and cover many states. The government has announced only the first grants, $5.5 million for Ohio, where Education Secretary Margaret Spellings was making the presentation Monday.

The department will release the remaining grants in the coming weeks, falling right before the Nov. 7 elections in which a reeling Republican Party is eager for good news.

In Ohio in particular, the GOP could trumpet the news of money for the state education department. The $5.5 million will be shared by schools in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo.

Sen. Mike DeWine, (R-Ohio), is trailing his Democratic rival. Also, Democrats have led for weeks in two House seats long in Republican hands, and party officials talk of capturing two or three more seats. Such gains could help the Democrats take over the House.

The Education Department says the election had no bearing on the timing. The grant application process began in May, and the review was done in the early fall, officials said. Congress approved the program last year.

"It's always a little suspicious when you have these things come out just before the election, allowing members of Congress in tight races to get some money for their district," said Joel Packer, a lobbyist for the National Education Association.

- article snipped -

Rodeo · 10-23-2006, 12:03 PM

The ony problem is, Tillman is not a Democratic operative trying to swing an election.

He is a brave and honorable soldier that lost his brother in battle.

It doesn't stop the mindless wolves from attacking him. But nothing stops them. Except the voting both. We will take our country back from the dishonorable cowards that have seized control.

kach22i · kach22i's Garage

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Originally posted by Rodeo
We will take our country back from the dishonorable cowards that have seized control.

Yea, but in Diebold we trust?

It's not how many votes we get, it's who does the counting.

lendaddy · 10-23-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
The ony problem is, Tillman is not a Democratic operative trying to swing an election.

He is a brave and honorable soldier that lost his brother in battle.

It doesn't stop the mindless wolves from attacking him. But nothing stops them. Except the voting both. We will take our country back from the dishonorable cowards that have seized control.

Pardon me while I towel up my vomit. You must be the biggest drama queen in the world. Anyway....

No one attacked Tillman.

"Kevin wrote on Truthdig.com, which purchased his work."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say....stay with me here as this is just a guess..........that Truthdig is a Democrat/Liberal site???? Purchased his work? Two week before an election??? Maybe (again just a guess of course) maybe this is what Jeff was talking about?

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 12:11 PM

Sports Illustrated (SI.com) carried this story. Are they a liberal site?

Rodeo · 10-23-2006, 12:14 PM

You're in there daddy.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Sports Illustrated (SI.com) carried this story. Are they a liberal site?

flaming Commies

have you noticed how many sports teams have *RED* uniforms?!?!?

lendaddy · 10-23-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Sports Illustrated (SI.com) carried this story. Are they a liberal site?

Not that I know of, no. That's not the point. Neither is Drudge or Fox News who have also covered it. The question is the date of writing/release not the subsequent coverage.

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 12:22 PM

I'm not sure I follow the hair you're splitting. 'splain it to me, Lucy.

lendaddy · 10-23-2006, 12:23 PM

I'm really struggling to figure out how you guys never seem to follow my points. I think it's because rather than reading them with the intention of understanding me or my position, you read them with the intention of "getting me" with some comeback or twist of my words.

It could also be my writing style, but I seriously find it curious.

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
flaming Commies

have you noticed how many sports teams have *RED* uniforms?!?!?

I hope this doesn't mean we should avert our eyes in the presence of the swimsuit edition.

Jeff Higgins · 10-23-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
The ony problem is, Tillman is not a Democratic operative trying to swing an election.

No, he is not. Correct. I have nothing at all against Tillman; I simply cannot imagine his pain over the loss of his brother. He has every right to be angry and dissillusioned.

Will that anger and dissillusionment extend, someday, to the "mindless wolves" taking advantage of him for their political gain? We will never know. I pray he does not add to his already heavy burden by allowing those wolves that dishonor his fallen brother with their mindless, blind, political ambitions to get to him. Someday he will realize he has been used by the most depraved class in our society, who care not a whit about him or his brother. I hope he can deal with that, and still stand tall in front of his brother when they one day meet again.

Jim Richards · 10-23-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
I'm really struggling to figure out how you guys never seem to follow my points. I think it's because rather than reading them with the intention of understanding me or my position, you read them with the intention of "getting me" with some comeback or twist of my words.

It could also be my writing style, but I seriously find it curious.

Len, it's either your writing style, or something in your grey matter.

On a positive note, you seem like a pleasant enough character, and I'm sure Rodeo will vouch for you.

Rodeo · 10-23-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
That's not the point. ***
The question is the date of writing/release not the subsequent coverage.

Yea, the same issue as the House Repub leadership covering up for a child predator. It's not the substance the story, it's whatever can be used for a distraction from the substance.

How dare an American soldier that served honorably in Afghanistan and Iraq issue a statement! How dare he do it before an election!

Maybe soon, the president will declare him an "enemy combatant," and you won't have to be bothered with his kind anymore, daddy.