I was not aware that alcohol was an illegal or illicit product.

I can see burning down a crack dealers house...sort of. But burning down legal businesses cause your bass-ackwards religion calls for it?

Um, no.

Yes, tough talkers, and even tougher to emulate when one knows a bit more about these people. Let's see...

Grant was a drunk and held the highest Union casualty rate of the Civil War. He was reprimanded several times for his alcoholism.

Homer wrote about mythologies 300 years or more after the myth's establishment - so, he was merely passing on what had already been written. I wouldn't call him a hack, though because of this, some have.

Patton was a psychopath who suffered delusions of grandeur based on his family's military success.

Don't know much about Hal Moore. All I can say is if James Webb, Tim O'Brien and Robert McNamara can capitalize on the Vietnam War, why shouldn't Moore?

As to North Philly? Thanks for the invite, but I have no interest in seeing more societal failures.

I guess all you have going for you is that cute jacket or whatever it was you posted.

What I'd like to know is if I wear one like it, will it help me get into some of the better Philly nightclubs, or at least a free cheesesteak?
SmileWavy

If you ever come to philly for any reason let me know and i will gladly buy you a cheesesteak. :)

As for your opinion of the various historical figures i quoted in this thread, i sure would love to see what a full accounting of your life at the hands of a hostile or revisionist author would read like...or any of us for that matter.

We are people, we all have our faults and failings. We also have our strengths. Like being great leaders, or being the greatest manuever warfare general in the history of the US, etc, etc.

So you call Homer a hack, i call him a great social commentator and historian.

You call Patton a psychopath, i call him a general who understood the true nature of mobile warfare, and what works and why.

You call Ulysses S. Grant a drunk, and i call him the man that won the war for the United States where all others before him had failed.

You call me a loud mouth tough guy, i humbly submit that if i'm going to die, it will be on my feet, not in the fetal position cowering on the floor of a car in the middle of a riot that i had nothing to do with.

As for Hal Moore, he was the commander of the US 7th Cavalry at Ia Drang Valley, for the first major battle of the Vietnam war. Outnumbered 10:1(about 3500 to 285 at the start of the battle), and facing overrun, he personally led a charge against a vastly superior force, shocking the enemy to the point that they fled the field of battle. You may be familiar with this battle as it was portrayed in the movie "We were soldiers", with Mel Gibson.

Further, attempting to assassinate the character of these men does not change the simple fact that they are all 100% right as quoted above.

Fortune DOES favor the bold. In business, in romance, and in war.

When you are about to lose, why NOT attack? Sometimes it even works!

In battle and in life anything is possible if pursued with sufficient audacity. Like landing men on the moon long before the advent of the microchip. Or like relieving the 101st Abn at Bastogne by executing one of the most amazing movements to contact in the entire history of warfare.

BTW, that "Jacket" or whatever is a bulletproof vest. LOL.

Rest assured, Snipe - I wouldn't have this conversation with you if I didn't like you.

So there!

Maybe work might one day lead me to King of Prussia. If so, I'll call you. SmileWavy

It was just a joke. Since I'm a childish loser, you shouldn't take me too seriously. No one else does. Besides, Michael Savage also voted for Brown, so you are in good company.

If you end up in KOP definitely shoot me a PM bro. :)

Wow.

It did look to me that some of those cars were blocked in by members of the mob.

Crap like this is depressing. I'm going to have to start carrying an additional magazine.

- Skip

Clip, or magazine?

Clip for the roach. Magazine for the bathroom.

Oh, wait...

DAMMIT! Extra ammunition. Additional rounds.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about!!! ;)

I'm hoping Santa has a FFL, cause I really <I>need</I> one of these:

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/index.jsp?loc=101&SITEID=A&PartNumber=704204

Then you ain't from Texas.

I hope Santa has a C&R .. I want this.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166576175.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166576205.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166576223.jpg

Gorgeous, but it won't fit a Carerra door pocket.

Who cares! I'll work round it. ( got the 1911 for that spot)

For that group, after spinning some donuts or Drifting for Dirtbags I would get out with one of these:D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166580072.jpg

Here's my fave:

http://mactec-militaryarms.com/p7psp_nills.jpg

If i could have any sidearm, it'd be a HK P7M8. Unfortunately i have so much money sunk in my current sidearm i'd never break even if i sold it, and i cannot justify to myself having two thousand dollar plus sidearms. LOL.

Here's my current sidearm:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ardSideRT1.jpg

Custom S&W M5903 lower with hand fitted M6906 upper. Mag-na-ported, Trijicon night sites, converted to single action cocked and locked carry, 4lb SA trigger, S&W pro shop match grade bbl, Wilson's extended ambi safety, bobbed and lightened hammer, Hogue monogrip, custom tri-tone finish, jeweled bbl hood, 15+1rd capacity.

PS: NICE side by side Targa 911S!

(quote)"I wonder how long until we see vigilante groups? I don't mean "Guardian Angels", I mean true death squads.

Not advocating them, but I won't be surprised when/if they arise either"


Where do I sign up???To me it would be a great alternative as you cant count on the system to do its job.

Grant drank when he was bored, when he was busy he was usually sober.

Grant was tactically outmatched by Lee, Lee had a knack of being able to second guess his oponents. Lee also took high risk chances largely because he was outnumbered and ill equiped.

Grant had the strategic advantage of superior forces that were better equiped and supplied. What Grant did different than all previous commanders was continue to press Lee in spite of being tactically out manuevered by him. In other words Grant knew that a war of attrition and continuily moving South would not only force Lee to fight but would exhaust him. Yes Grant suffered a high casuality rate, but no more so than any other major battle. What was different was that there were 3 major battles in a month. Only at Cold Harbor did Grant squander troops unnecessarily. He sent in sevral Divisions against the Confederates dug in positions which led to their slaughter. That was the only time Grant really felt that he had made a serious mistake.

A litle piece of trivia...Grant was never the Commander of the Army of the Potomac. Grant in late 1863 was appointed the Commander in Chief of all US Army Forces. Gordon Meade was the commander of the Army of the Potomac. Grant in the campaign in N VA traveled along with the Army of the Potomac and directed the strategic apects of the campaign.